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Moving on to Frances


This looks like her in 1851


1851 Census

Name: Frances Gilham
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Hernhill, Kent, England

Civil parish: Sheldwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Faversham
Sub-registration district: Boughton

William Jefferys 62 Landed Proprietor
Sarah M Jefferys 56
Sarah M Jefferys 19
Susanna Jefferys 15
Susanna Smith 53
Fanny Smith 52
Henrietta M Dane 47 Cook
Frances Gilham 20 Housemaid
George Austin 76 Footman <<< htis age could be 16 or 76!
Mary A Ashbee 14 Lady's Maid

Address:- Harewell House


and in 1841 with her parents


1841 Census

Name: Frances Gilham
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil parish: Hernhill
Hundred: Boughton under Blean
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Faversham
Sub-registration district: Broughton

Joseph Gilham 40 b.ca 1801, Kent, Ag Lab
Ann Gilham 37 b.ca 1804, Kent
Sarah Gilham 14
Frances Gilham 11
Ann Gilham 9
Joseph Gilham 7
Charlotte Gilham 5
Jane Gilham 4
Emma Gilham 2
John Gilham 1

Address:- Hey Street



sylvia

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possible for Ann Hewitt????????????

from the I G I on www.familysearch.org


Ann Hewitt Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 24 FEB 1804 St John, Margate, Kent, England

Parents:
Father: Thomas Hewitt Family
Mother: Sarah

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
I064088 Film





sylvia

Hi Yes I can see the names that the Frances named her family with, Sarah, Ann, Jane, Emma,, all names she used for her own children,..,,, a huge family, I wonder if there are any family over there still,,,,, thanks Kathy

Yes again, the names Thomas and Sarah, being used again here,,, the dates fit,,, I wonder how I could prove it,, any suggestions.. Kathy

This is another of those Submitted records, with no backing documentation



Joseph Gilham Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 MAR 1801 Lenham, Kent, England

Parents:
Father: George Gilham Family
Mother: Anne or Mary

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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

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Source Information:
No source information is available.




I couldn't see a marriage for him





sylvia

the only way to prove anything is with parish records ..... and you are like me, you have to depend on whatever is on the internet! It's impossible for us to actually visit churches, etc

Certificates are not available for these early births etc ..... registration started on July 1 1837 in England and Wales.

I suggest you just keep poking around on those 2 sites, google "parish records" .... and keep on asking on here


Do NOT though start a new thread or threads for these families ................. keep updating this one so that people can see what has already been found and don't duplicate the searches.


it is possible to change the title of your thread ... click on Edit in the header message, and the title bar will also show. Just add Update, p. 3 or whatever.

You will always be able to find the thread in My Threads (in the box headed Tools to the left of the screen)



There are probably relations still alive over there ..... try putting the names in the Search Trees box in the dark green band above ..... this will tell you if anyone on this site has them in their tree. Then you can send a pm (personal message) through GR to the tree owner.





sylvia

thanks maybe another generation here, I may have to go on a holiday to Kent in England and see what else there is to find, I would love to go to the St Johns church,, and look through the records for it, Kathy

I can't find Ann Adie


It would be great to go back.

I actually went to one of the 3 villages in Buckinghamshire that my father's family originated in ....... they were all in a very close proximity to each other.

Unfortunately, the grave stones in the churhyard were all so old and caked with moss that you couldn't decipher the writing, and the church was locked. We couldn't find anyone in the village.

So it was a wasted trip from that point of view ........... we hadn't made any arrangements, and in fact hadn't even thought about going there until I suddenly realised that we were only about 10 miles away!


If you do manage to make the trip .......... plan it carefully, and contact the church in advance ...... many of the old records are no longer kept in the churches but have been moved elsewhere.



sylvia

HI Sylvia, there seems to be some people with Ann Davies, not Ann Adie, married to Joseph Gilham. I am still trying to prove which is the surname for her. I have been swamped with family contacting me, and offering info, on a few family ancestors, only after 5 days of being on this site, I have got so much info, I can't believe it, I haven't had time to keep adding to my family tree, I have 2 members sent me photo of gr gr aunts, and uncles, but the one we can't find is, is it Adie or Davies,??? and still looking for it. thanks for everything,. talk soon, cheers Kathy