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Thankyou Margaret for the help.
Gwynn, Thankyou very much i knew his middle name however had no idea it was a link to his father my great autie told me the story a few days ago. I know mary is tied into them is there a chance mary could be her middle name? Would you know if it was Ann who owned The Stag Inn in Lake or is that further down the family?
I knew there year of marrage as i have seen some records of there marrage although i do not have as copy myself.

Isaac's full name was Isaac John Long White, the John Long being his father's name.
Isaac's headstone shows Isaac J. L. White.
His death certificate gives his full name. He died of acute bronchitis on 15th January 1924 at his home in Stag Road, Lake.

Isaac's mother's name was just Ann White, not Mary Ann White - she was the eldest daughter of William White and Hannah Phillips and was born in 1829. She died in 1890. Her headstone simply says "Ann White of Lake".
Legal documents relating to the leasing of a public house also show her name to be Ann.

Ann married Thomas White in 1859. Thomas was the son of James White of Branston Common and was apprenticed for 7 years to James Nobbs, carpenter and wheelwright, in 1833 at the age of 14. He died in 1868.

Sorry, Marnie, no I'm no relation, just doing look-ups.

Thankyou Margaret but would you be of any relation ? and would you have any information on who his father could be ? or on the story in general

The isle of wight

Isaac's birth? No mother's maiden name given meaning White was her maiden name:

WHITE, Isaac, John 1846 none Ryde R7/P37

The marriage on Isle of Wight records:

WHITE, Ann 1859 Register Office, Nonconformist or RC Church RO8/60
WHITE, Thomas

That 1838 marriage was Thomas White and Sophia Ann Wallis.

WALLIS, Sophia, Ann 1838 St Mary, Brading COE7.1/23
WHITE, Thomas

From:

http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/bmd/startbmd.htm

Isaac John Long White 1846
Information given in new thread:
Son of Mary Ann White i am wondering about his father as He is given Mary's maiden name and although Mary later went on to Marry Thomas White it is known that he is not the father. The story through the family was that Isacc was the illigitament child of a married man whom Mary had an affair with.
Thomas and Mary Married in 1859 when Isacc was 13 this has come to light however others members of the family believed Isaac was their child. i wondered if anyone else had some information for me?

When was Isaac White born?
Thanks

Marriages Mar 1859
Kingswell Henry I Wight 2b 670
Morris Ann I Wight 2b 670
xxxxxWhite Ann I Wight 2b 670
xxxxxWhite Thomas I Wight 2b 670
Certificate will have Father's names on it,

Hi Patricia,
I am currently away therefore have had little time to be on here everyone's messages have been helpful the dates of the children are from a distant family member who helped me get started. I am on the isle of wight at the moment therefore am hoping to learn more and have been requiring some photographs and documents from family so i am aware of which documents i need. I am rather certain they didnt not marry anywhere but the isle of wight.
Thomas and Mary ann's marrage is registered as Thomas and Ann in 1859 i believe as she is on some census under both Mary and Ann.
Hope that makes more sense

Hi Victoria,
That would appear to be The same harriet thankyou very much can i ask if u have any other information on the white and if you are of any relation.
Thankyou

Unfortuately i am so sorry i am currently visiting my father for the week i'm on my mums genesreunited and the Whites are my fathers side. The information i have for the marrage of thomas and Mary are:
Register Office, Nonconformist or RC Church
1859
And they only had one son which was isacc white which suggest thats a different family sorry

This looks a possibility for the 1861 info.

Marriage
WHITE, Thomas and SIMMONDS, Mary 1843 St Mary, Brading

Births
WHITE, Frank, Henry 1844 SIMMONDS Ryde
WHITE, William, John 1851 SIMMONDS Ryde
WHITE, Emma 1855 SIMMONDS Ryde
WHITE, Tom 1857 SIMMONDS Ryde
WHITE, Alice, Mary 1860 SIMMONDS Ryde

From IOW FHS Site
http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/index.htm

Chris

Mamie,
Is what we have put accurate, and is it what you already know?
Where did the dates of the children come from?
Is this claimed marriage of Mary ann White (1824-1890) and Thomas White (c1822- 1868) the one at Basingstoke, or did Michael find the correct? (because they cannot both be right)
You have put 'if more information is needed just ask'- we are.
Thanks

I can find Harriet (born Brading, living at Carisbroke) in a workhouse in 1851, and as a servant in 1861, but not definite in 1841, birth 1833 and 1834.

this is a submitted record , treat with caution

Harriet WHITE Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
20 NOV 1835 Brading,Iow, , Hampshire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: William WHITE Family
Mother: Hannah PHILLIPS

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

Source Information:

Do you mean this marriage:
Marriages Dec 1844
CLACY Robert William Salkeld Basingstoke 7 125
WHITE Elizabeth Basingstoke 7 125
xxxxxWHITE Mary Ann Basingstoke 7 125
xxxxxxWHITE Thomas Basingstoke 7 125
which is Basingstoke, not IOW?
Have I the wrong family in 1851 and 1861?
Have you got birth and marriage certificates with parents names?
Thank-you

Births Mar 1844
WHITE Frank Henry I of Wight 8 234
Births Dec 1844
WHITE Frank I of Wight 8 238

Births Mar 1851
White William John I. of Wight 8 270