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1911 census - household transcription
Person: BREWER, Elizabeth
Address: 146 High Street Walthamstow

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Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
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LITTLE, Nathan George Head Married M 50 1861 Cap And Embroidery Manufacturer Curland VIEW
LITTLE, Gertrude Wife Married
20 years F 46 1865 London VIEW
LITTLE, Esrher Mina Daughter Single F 18 1893 Walthamstow VIEW
LITTLE, Miriam Daughter Single F 15 1896 Walthamstow VIEW
BREWER, Elizabeth Servant Single F 27 1884 Domestic Servant Standord Rivers VIEW

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Yep You're right Maureen... :))

Not sure,Rose,but in 1881 census it says Henry is 2. So wouldn't this be his birth?
Births Dec 1879
Brewer Henry George Ongar 4a 204

(I know the 1891 says 9....)

Maureen

Thank you Jax, woodford is spot on! So obviously henry and his mother were split up. Thats a good point I could check the birth for elizabeths brother. Do you think that if elizabeth was born after James Brewer died that maybe her mother gave her the same surname or had to? x

what you could try is getting the birth cert for Elizabeth's older brother Henry?

just a chance that the father was named on it who could be Elizabeths father too? I think it may be James' death in 1880 and this is the only birth for a Henry at the right time...

EDIT...Samantha go with the birth Maureen has put above :)

Looks like Henry in 1911

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BREWER, Henry Samuel
Address: 3 Bretts Villas Primrose Road S Woodford SX

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NICHOLLS, George Head Married M 60 1851 Jobbing Gardener Devonshire Brixton VIEW
NICHOLLS, Amy Davis Wife Married
34 years F 59 1852 Housekeeper Devonshire Yealmpton VIEW
NICHOLLS, Maud Annie Daughter Single F 28 1883 Housework London Bow VIEW
NICHOLLS, Gertrude Mary Daughter Single F 21 1890 Domestic Essex Woodford VIEW
IGGULDEN, Albert Edwin Boarder Single M 11 1900 School Boy London St Marys Hosp VIEW
BREWER, Henry Samuel Boarder Single M 10 1901 School Boy Essex Leytonstone VIEW
SPAIN, Phillip Pison Visitor Single M 14 1897 Hse Painters Labourer Essex Leytonstone VIEW
GREGORY, Phylis Boarder Single F 3 1908 Essex South Woodford VIEW
BRAIDWOOD, Mary Freda Boarder Single F 1 1910 Essex South Woodford VIEW
WESTBROOK, Celia Boarder Married F 66 1845 None Essex Chelmsford VIEW

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Thank you Rose. Based on the books that I am reading it could be anyone perhaps? They were not good times for women. The trilogy by Jennifer worth in the 1950's is so good x

Well that all makes sense then :) very sad that they were in the workhouse... so I'm afraid you won't know Elizabeth's father, but at least you have her mum's side of the family :)

Henry Samuel is my grandads dad! All in workhouses :(((

Oh poor things, I am reading a book about the workhouses and they were awful. I have a feeling elizabeth's dad was not james as in 1881 fanny was already widowed x

Don't know if you think this likely but it does seem a coincidence?

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Brewer
Name: Elizabeth Brewer
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Pauper Inmate (Pauper)
Gender: Female
Where born: Ongar, Essex, England

Civil parish: Leyton
Ecclesiastical parish: Leytonstone Harrow Green Holy Trinity
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: South Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: West Ham Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age

Elizabeth Brewer 17
Henry Samuel Brewer 6 weeks

the 1891 shows this, I think this is Fanny's son, and I would guess that the 'Emily' below is actually Elizabeth... Fanny's two youngest still in the workhouse

1891 England Census
about Henry Brewer
Name: Henry Brewer
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Patient
Gender: Male
Where born: Ongar Union House, Essex, England

Civil parish: Stanford Rivers
Ecclesiastical parish: Lambourne
County/Island: Essex


Registration district: Ongar
Sub-registration district: Chipping Ongar
ED, institution, or vessel: Ongar Union House
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Wortess 9
Henry Brewer 9 *******
Emily Brewer 8 *********

Oh dear thats a shame. As Fanny was widowed to you think maybe she met someone in the workhouse?

This looks like Fanny's death the year or so after Elizabeth was born

Deaths Jun 1886 (>99%)
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Brewer Fanny 42 Ongar 4a 119

I don't think Elizabeth had the same father as Fanny's other children, as in 1881 she is shown as widowed and Elizabeth was born in 1885 x

Samantha, it isn't a spelling mistake as such it is Brewer on the image it's just that the transcriber read it as an 'o'...

if you get the marriage cert it should be comfirmed by the fathers names on it.

Maybe the brower was a spelling mistake? She met him and must have married him young.

round in a big circle there :))

Oh!! Maureen ...so that marriage was the right one after all you think? lol how odd!

1851 Ancestry
Name: James Brewer
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambourne, Essex, England
Civil parish: Lambourne
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Ongar
Sub-registration district: Bobbingworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 10b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Brewer 33
Mary Ann Brewer 34
James Brewer 12
Emma Brewer 6
Elizabeth Brewer 4 Mo
Sussanah Dills 5
Abraham Miller 67
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1771; Folio: 408; Page: 16;

Maureen