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Hi
I am trying to help out a friend,he is looking for his past family.

This is proving difficult,I only have Ancestry Heritage plus I don't have world Ancestry.

Does anyone have this name in there tree,or in there family I would be very greatefull for some help with this if possible.

His father was Mate Marin Kosovich bn 1911,Yogoslavia
His mother was thelma Ivy Mudford 1915 Bunbury WA.

Mate marin Kosovich parents are
Ante Kosovich farmer Sagreb Yogoslavia
Ivka Al firivich Sagreb Yogoslavia

I know it is not much to go on but at the moment I really dont have a lot .
Any help would be great.
Thankyou
Sue

EDITE ,He has just given me some more info and a look at Mate's marriage cert,I did'nt know he had it already.

where did they end up, England?? where exactly
did they marry in england/uk ??

The surname barely registers in English records -- marriages in 1950 and 1996, no births or deaths.

Susan, even if you don't subscribe for Ancestry worldwide, you can still do the general search for the names and see whether anything comes up, you just won't be able to see details.


There is a family tree on Ancestry that you have access to -- just search for Mate Kosovich. It indicates that he died in NZ. I suppose this is probably your friend's tree, though. ;)

Thankyou everyone for your replies.

Mate and his Aussie bn wife married in OZ they both are buried in Perths Pinnaroo valley cemetary Western Australia.

Mate came to Western Australia in the early 1900's but I cant find his passage details either
My friend is quite elderley and does not dabble in Genealogy,he just asked me if I could find his past family.

I will try as you sugested and see what this other tree on Genes has .
Thankyou .
Suex

Sue

The marriage cert should have a lot of details ie parents etc...

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1949
about Mate M Kosovich
Name: Mate M Kosovich
Marriage Place: Western Australia
Registration Place: East Coolgardie, Western Australia
Registration Year: 1939
Registration Number: 10


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1949
about Thelma I E Mudford
Name: Thelma I E Mudford
Marriage Place: Western Australia
Registration Place: Coolgardie, Western Australia
Registration Year: 1938
Registration Number: 10



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Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954
about Mate Marin Kosovich
Name: Mate Marin Kosovich
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1943
State: Western Australia
District: Kalgoorlie
Subdistrict: Pilbara

Occ; Blue Spee mine Nullgagine miner
Also; Nikola Mijo Kosovich.....same occ

Ginny thankyou

He only lives over the road from me so I just got a bit more info from him ie; marriage cert he already had of his parents.

Can anyone see Mate Marin Kosovich coming into this country early 1900,I can't find his passage anywhere.

Thankyou for your help.
Suex

EDITE
I have found his and his wife'sVoter Regs in Kalgorlie on Ancestry.

I have added more info on first post if it helps.

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Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954
about Mate Marin Kosovich
Name: Mate Marin Kosovich <<Miner
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1949
State: Western Australia
District: Kalgoorlie
Subdistrict: Hannans
Wife; Thelma Ivy 51 President St Home duties



Off to work, will check back later

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The grandfather is on a few ER and here is what looks to be his death

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Ante Kosovich
Name: Ante Kosovich
Death Place: Western Australia
Age: 85
Father's Name: Barisa Kosovich <<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's Name: Iva Kosovich <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration Place: Swan, Western Australia
Registration Number: 39/79/t


All on the ER listed below.

Kosovich Ane Female <<Home duties
Kosovich Ante Male <<Vigneron
Kosovich Ivan Male <<Vigneron
Kosovich John Male <<Brickmaker
Kosovich Jure Male <<Farmer
Kosovich Mate Male <<Labourer
Kosovich Matija Female <<Home duties
Kosovich Matt Male <<Vigneron
Kosovich Nicholas Male <<Vigneron




Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954
about Ante Kosovich
Name: Ante Kosovich
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: Western Australia
District: Swan
Subdistrict: Swan

Unfortunately, "Mate Kosovich" seems to be the John Smith of Yugoslavia!

The one I was looking at in trees at Ancestry (and I'm not sure whether it's just one or more than one) seems not to be yours.

Here's another who seems not to be:

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action

KOSOVICH Mate born1898 departed1927 Liverpool Canada Halifax

travelling with a Peter Kosovich with the same year of birth.

Your Mate presumably travelled to Australia not via the UK, so he won't show in departures from the UK, of course.

I still wonder whether there isn't a good chance the Mate Kosovich-s are related, and it might be worth contacting people with others in their tree. (I was referring to trees at Ancestry, not here at GR.)

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/

I don't have access to Australian records at Ancestry, but a general search of historical records shows him on electoral rolls in Kalgourlie starting in 1937 (as Mate, later Mate Marin?).

There's another Mate Kosovich (at least) in Queensland around the same time.

But in 1925 and 1936 there is a Mate Kosovich in Swann, Western Australia. (Two entries at Ancestry for 1925 -- just a duplication?) Would this be him? It doesn't likely help a lot if it is, other than placing him there by 1925.

(Put me out of my misery -- is the name pronounced "mate" or "mattay"?)

Just tried google, as I'm sure you have, and it came up with your thread from March:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1210722

Would you delete that, as it is a duplicate (not permitted) and there is a risk that someone will see it at some point and not realize that all the information in this thread has already been found?

Hmm yep sure are not easy to pin down but I is thinking that Mate was maybe born in Oz?

Kosovich Ante Male<<Vigneron
Kosovich Jure Male <<<Farmer
Kosovich Matt Male <<<Vigneron
Kosovich Nicholas Male <<Vigneron
Kosovich Nikola Male <<Labourer

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954
about Ante Kosovich
Name: Ante Kosovich
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Western Australia
District: Swan
Subdistrict: Northam

A google also gave me search results in the IGI:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/customsearchresults.asp?
LDS=1®ion=5&last_name=Kosovich

Results for: Kosovich
International Genealogical Index / Continental Europe - 49


Ante KOSOVICH
Christening: 19 JAN 1853 Licki Novi, Hrvatska, Yugoslavia
Father: Stepan KOSOVICH
Mother: Mathia

as a *submitted* record.

A submitted record with an exact date and place, and not claiming to know the mother's surname, tends to look like a transcription from parish records, to me.

The father's name Mathia might be a source for "Mate".

... of course, a Mate Kosovich, with different parents, was christened in the same place 10 days later. I told you: John Smith! ;)

Here's what's interesting, though -- the mother of the 1853 Mate was: Ilka FERKOVICH.

That's just a little reminiscent of the name you have for the mother of the 1911 Mate: Ivka Al firivich. (Didn't the surname start out as one word? It's two?)

There are over 130 submitted records for Ferkovich in Licki Novi and Gospic, Yugoslavia.


Google maps offers a lot of institutions and such in Zagreb for Hrvatska, Croatia.

Lički Novi, Gospić
Croatia

is about 100 miles ssw of Zagreb.

When people had made a major geographic/linguistic shift, they did often name birthplaces that were recognizable to / spellable by the local population where they settled.

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954
about Barisa Kosovich
Name: Barisa Kosovich
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1949
State: Western Australia
District: Moore
Subdistrict: Moore

Also listed;


Kosovich Ane Female <<Home duties
Kosovich Ante Male <<Vigeron
Kosovich Barisa Male <<no occupation, presume retired
Kosovich Ivan Male <<Vigeron
Kosovich Ive Female <<House keeper
Kosovich Ivor Gingin Female <<Home duties
Kosovich Jure Male <<Farmer
Kosovich Mandina Female <<Home duties
Kosovich Matija Female <<Home duties
Kosovich Matt Male <<Vigneron

So we have the family listed with the father named on the death I posted earlier


Heres what seems to be his death. Not much help with parents though!

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Barisa Kosovich
Name: Barisa Kosovich
Death Place: Western Australia
Father's Name: Kosovich
Mother's Name: Kosovich
Registration Year: 1952
Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia
Registration Number: 24??9

Ginny --

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Ante Kosovich
Name: Ante Kosovich
Death Place: Western Australia
Age: 85

-- is there a *year of death*?? ;)

year of death minus age 85 = ?

i.e. that way we have his approx DOB.


Death was in Swan, WA, so the Mate Kosovich on the ER in Swan in 1925 I mentioned earlier is likely ours?

No JC, no date of death grrr

There is this death that at least puts a date of birth of one of the little Smiths!

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Ante Kosovich
Name: Ante Kosovich
Death Place: Western Australia
Age: 62
Father's Name: Ivan Kosovich
Mother's Name: Matija Kosovich
Registration Year: 1972
Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia
Registration Number: 4019/72

Hmm, well, sort me out -- what's the last electoral roll Ante was on? Assuming he died before the next one, it will give us a reasonable timeframe for the death and thus his birth, anyhow!

edit - as you did - so a grandchild of Ante and Ann died in 1972 at age 62, i.e. born circa 1910.

That doesn't really work.

Mate Marin was a *son* of Ante and Ann and he was born circa 1911, according to our info here.

Sort you out....me too


Heres the last ER I can see for him before his death

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954
about Ante Kosovich
Name: Ante Kosovich
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1954
State: Western Australia
District: Moore
Subdistrict: Swan

Along with;

Kosovich Ane Female
Kosovich Ante Male
Kosovich Betty Ethel Female
Kosovich Irene May Female
Kosovich Ivan Male
Kosovich Ivor Gingin Road Female
Kosovich Mandina Female
Kosovich Matija Female
Kosovich Matt Male
Kosovich Peter Male

So hold on -- this household on the ER --

Kosovich Ane
Kosovich Ante <<
Kosovich Ivan <<
Kosovich John
Kosovich Jure
Kosovich Mate
Kosovich Matija <<
Kosovich Matt
Kosovich Nicholas

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954
about Ante Kosovich
Name: Ante Kosovich
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: Western Australia
District: Swan
Subdistrict: Swan

-- that Ante could be Ante *son* of Ivan and Matija, born c1910, not Ante *father* of Ivan.