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Im trying to help my husband find his Grandmothers family.
Jane was the daughter of Henry Jones from Corris Merioneth.I think she was born 1899-1900.She gave birth to a son out of wedlock in Corwen Workhouse in 1915His name was Thomas Iorwerth Jones. Jane was kicked out of the family and we don't know where she went to but her son was brought up by the Grandfather. Are there any known relatives out there. How could We find out any info please?

So is it Thomas Iorwerths descendants you want to know about?

No,on second thoughts he must be your husbands father?

What was Henry Jones occupation and have you found them on 1911?

There are 2 Jane Jones from Corris in the 1901 Welsh census, fathers John or Thomas.
Could someone be using a second name, do you know, or her Mother's name?
Thanks

This is a Jane father Henry in 1911:
JONES, Henry Head Married M 52 1859 Slater And Plasterer Merioneth Glyndeofrdry
JONES, Jane Wife Married 30 years F 51 1860 Denbigh Garth
JONES, Jane Daughter F 11 1900 School Denbigh Llangollen
RG number: RG14 Piece: 34244 Reference: RG14PN34244 RG78PN1978 RD625 SD2 ED16 SN165
Registration District: Corwen Sub District: Llangollen Enumeration District: 16 Parish: Llangollen Rural Address: Penlan Garth Llangollen County: Merionethshire

1911 family in 1901:
Henry Jones
Age in 1901: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Glyndyfwgth, Merionethshire, Wales Civil parish: Llangollen Ecclesiastical parish: Llangollen Town: Trevor Isa County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales Street Address: Pen Lan Occupation: slater and plasterer
Registration district: Corwen Sub-registration district: Llangollen ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 147
Henry Jones 42
Jane Jones 41 llangollen
Catherine Jones 18
Margaret G Jones 14
John G Jones 10
Evan D Jones 4
Jane Jones 1
Sarah E Jones 7
William Clay 50
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 5248; Folio: 57; Page: 22.

But is it Jane or Henry that was born in Corris Patricia.?

That is not really clear I fear.

And Henrys occupation and maybe birth year would help a lot if known.

Then we may find them on census for Janes siblings and possibly follow some forward..
But with the name Jones it will be a fairly hard job.

Although at least with some names and ages etc of siblings a search of trees can be made to see if anyone has them..

there is a tree on ancetry with the family on but no more info other than wife jane mdn is shown as Morris



About the towns/parishes....

Corwen spans the boundaries of the counties of Denbighshire and Merionethshire;

When Civil Registration was introduced (on 1 July 1837), the parish of Llangollen was assigned to the No. 2 ("Corwen") sub-district of the Corwen Registration District; which was co-extensive with the Corwen poor law Union.

Corris = Talyllyn

"TALYLLYN, a parish in the hundred of Estimaner, county Merioneth, 5 miles S.W. of Dolgelly, its post town, and 8 from Machynlleth. The village is situated on the river Mathew, under Cader-Idris and Arran-y-Gessel. The parish, which is of large extent, comprising 36,000 acres, includes Cedris, Ceuswyn, Corris, Llanerchgoediog, and Ystradgwyn.

The parish of Glyndyfrdwy was created in 1866, from the former Corwen townships of Carrog, Mwstwr, and Tir Llanerch along with portions of Bonwm and Rhagat. The parish was in the traditional county of Merionethshire until 1974 when it became part of the short-lived county of Clwyd. Following further local government re-organisation in 1996 it became part of the "new" county of Denbighshire.

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)

JONES Henry Wrexham 11b 481
Morris Jane Wrexham 11b 481

The district Wrexham spans the boundaries of the counties of Cheshire, Denbighshire and Flintshire

but I am not convinced these are the correct people

1891
Henry Jones
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Glyndyfrdwy, Merionethshire, Wales
[Mouoneth, Glyndyfrdwy]

Civil parish: Llangollen
Ecclesiastical parish: Llangollen
Town: Trevor Isa
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Corwen
Sub-registration district: Llangollen
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Jones 52 age is 32 on original occ Miner
Jane Jones 31 Llangollen, Denbighshire, Wales
Mary A Jones 9
Catharine Jones 5
Margaret E Jones 4
John E Jones 3/12


address PenLan Garth

Thank you all for looking .I know so very little about the family .Jane I believe was born in Corris Merioneth which would come under the Talyllyn district . I think her father Henry Jones woul have been working in t he slate quarry
at Aberllefenni --which is a village by Corris in Merioneth .I don't know where he was born but I know he died around 1962/3 .When my Husbands father ----Thomas Iorwerth Jones got married he lived with his grandparents at
14 Tai Uchaf Aberllefenni .I know that when my father in law was alive the family refused to discuss anything about his mother!

Any idea of grandmothers name and how old Henry was when he died?

I think he might have been in his 80s but Im afraid Im not sure ----I dont know the Grandmothers name either! Sorry

And did he die in Aberllefenni ?

Nancy is often used as a pet name for Ann.

This is the only death I can find for around the time you say in the right sort of area with the right sort of age.

Name: Henry W Jones
Death Registration Month/Year: 1958
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Merioneth North
Inferred County: Merionethshire
Volume: 8c
Page: 19


Nothing around 1962 in Merioneth.

And nothing other than has already been posted on census.

Sorry

Thank you for that
It seems that I will need more information on Jane's father before I can pursue with this research.I shall have to go and search the cemetries in that area I think!!

I now know tha Henry Jones was born in 1887 at Uwchygarreg Machynlleth Montgomeryshire .His wife's name was Elizabeth Ann ??born in 1889.Henry died in january 1966 and Elizabeth died in 1963. They were living at the time of their deaths at 14 Tai Uchaf Aberllefenni Merioneth.

1891 Maybe then.
T o se if we can come forward and end up with a wife Elizabeth and daughter Jane.


JONES, Evan Head Married M 46 1845 Stone Mason
Darowen
Montgomeryshire
JONES, Ann Wife Married F 42 1849
Cemmes
Montgomeryshire
JONES, Mary C Daughter F 15 1876 Household Duties
Darowen
Montgomeryshire
JONES, Evan Son M 13 1878 Scholar
Uwchygarreg
Montgomeryshire
JONES, Thomas Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Uwchygarreg
Montgomeryshire
JONES, Bridget A Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Uwchygarreg
Montgomeryshire
JONES, Robert Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Uwchygarreg
Montgomeryshire
JONES, Henry Son M 4 1887
Uwchygarreg
Montgomeryshire

Registration District:
Machynlleth

Civil Parish:
Uchygarreg Municipal Borough:
Machynlleth Address:
Penrhin, Bryngwyn, Uchygarreg, Derwenlas, Machynlleth County:
Montgomeryshire

The dates dont add up?

Henry was 14 in 1901 if he was born 1887.

So Jane can not be his daughter if she had a child in 1915?

1901
Same Henry with parents Ann and Evan

JONES, Henry Son M 14 1887
Machynlleth
Montgomeryshire

And he is still at home with parents on 1911 ..unmarried.

JONES, Henry Mab Single M 23 1888 Postman Montgomery Penrkus Machynlleth

But this would be that mans death in 1966

Name: Henry Jones
Death Registration Month/Year: 1966
Age at death (estimated): 79
Registration district: Merioneth South
Inferred County: Merionethshire
Volume: 8c
Page: 26

There is no marriage for Henry Jones and Elizabeth A in Montgomery between 1911 and 1915.
But there is this one in Merioneth.

Marriages Jun 1912
Jones Henry Roberts Corwen 11b 646
Roberts Elizabeth A Jones Corwen 11b 646