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Thank you guys, i will keep you all posted on what happens with this one! Rebecca

Births Sep 1894
PANTRY Ethel Eugenie Greenwich 1d 1034

1911 census transcription details for: 110 Ilderton Road Rotherhithe New Road
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN2543 RG78PN85 RD27 SD4 ED24 SN348

Reg. District: Camberwell Sub District: St George
Parish: Camberwell Enum. District: 24
Address: 110 Ilderton Road Rotherhithe New Road
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
ROBINSON, Cabel Joseph Head Widower M 65 1846 Grocer Dont Know England
PANTRY, Eugenie Niece Single F 48 1863 House Keeper Domestic Deptford
PANTRY, Ethel Daughter Single F 16 1895 Deptford

Rebecca, here is the London marriage of Caleb Robinson and Anne Pantry

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Anne Maria Pantry
Spouse Name: Caleb Joseph Robinson
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Jun 1868
Parish: St Paul, Deptford
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lewisham
Spouse Father Name: William Thomas Robinson

father name..George Pantry ...Coffee house keeper

Rebecca

Yeah, you're right to send for the birth cert of Ethel first

Please let us all know how you go on...we're a nosey bunch (especially that Jax!)

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Thank you guys for all the info you have kindly found for me. i have just found out that eugenie was in fact a twin to rosetta both born in 1862. Rosetta died in 1879, i am wondering whether after her twins death she felt she had to move away. this si another cert i must order, rosettas death!

1871 England Census
about Eugenie Pantry
Name: Eugenie Pantry
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William G
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Female
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Plaistow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 217
Household Members: Name Age
William G Pantry 32
Frances Pantry 38
Edwin Pantry 12
Lavinia Pantry 10
Rosetta Pantry 8
Eugenie Pantry 8
Ernest Pantry 4
Florence Pantry 2
Maud Pantry 5

and possibly Caleb's wife's death

Deaths Mar 1898 (>99%)
Robinson Anne Maria 46 Greenwich 1d 703

She seemed to have lived with them for some years more or less a daughter really

Cool...well done on that one Rose!

1891 mistranscribed

1891 England Census
about Eugenie Pardey ( clearly Pantry on image)
Name: Eugenie Pardey
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Deptford

Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Cabet I Robinson 45
Annie M Robinson 39
Annie E Robinson 21
Alice L Robinson 19
Eugenie Pardey 28

Rose/Jax

Can either of you see Eugenie in 1891?

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here she is ginny

Marriages Jun 1868 (>99%)
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Bugden Hannah Emily Greenwich 1d 966
Bugden John Kite Greenwich 1d 966
Pantry Anne Maria Greenwich 1d 966
Robinson Caleb Joseph Greenwich 1d 966


oh you beat me Rose lol

I would think Caleb perhaps 'adopted' his great niece and gave her his name for respectabilty?

Calebs wife was a Pantry

Marriages Jun 1868 (>99%)

Pantry Anne Maria Greenwich 1d 966
Robinson Caleb Joseph Greenwich 1d 966

1881 England Census
about Caleb J. Robinson
Name: Caleb J. Robinson
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Anne M.
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermonsey, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 68 Adolphus St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Lighterman

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb J. Robinson 35
Anne M. Robinson 29
Annie E. Robinson 11
Alice L. Robinson 9
William C. Robinson 7
Eugenie Panfrys 18 ***** ! Neice


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Well heres a can of worms

There is no marriage for a Eugenie to a Pantry. Both Ethel and Eugenie are down as Caleb Robinson's 'Nieces'


Hmmmm...Im thinking Caleb is Ethels father and Eugenies 'other half'!

1901 England Census
about Eugenie Pantry
Name: Eugenie Pantry
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb J Robinson 54 <<Married
Eugenie Pantry 38 <<Housekeeper!!!! Single
Ethel E Pantry 6


If Caleb is married, wheres the wife then!!

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Ginny, i think i shall buy the birth firstly and cross check with the death date allowing for the fact that some dates on deaths weren't aways very accurate.
i am very grateful for the searching you have all done for me on this one, i wonder if it is her, why on earth would she had been known as a Robinson. perhaps it has something to do with her uncle \Calebs estate upon his death.
Rebecca.

You'd have to buy the certificate for the death and really for the birth too so you can cross ref her exact birth date

You can buy online from the GRO, they are £9.25 each

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Ginny, you may have hit the nail on the head, this does sound very likely to me!!! Now how would i go about checking the exact details for this death, i know no reason for her to take the Robinson name !!