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Back to basics for a minute - I can't see Adeline's birth? Did find this (accidentally put wrong surname) but doesn't make any sense:

Births Jun 1883 (>99%)
ROWLEY Adeline Stoke T. 6b 207

Might be too early on Sunday, need another cuppa.

Looks like Aaron to me, but Jane isn't married to Honorius yet so need to think! Looks like Littlier on image though not very clear. Jane is head of household. I'm a bit dubious about this really.

1871 England Census

Name: Jane Littleer
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Burslem, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Shelton
Ecclesiastical parish: Shelton
Town: Hanley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Shelton

Jane Littleer 40
Adelaide Littleer 18
Aaron Littleer 20 Where born: Etruria, Staffordshire, England
Henry Littleer 16
Lizzie Littleer 4

1891 England Census

Name: Addie Letellier
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Wellington St Luke
Town: Hanley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Hanley

Aaron Letellier 40 Where born: Burslem, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Letellier 37
Joe Letellier 14
Addie Letellier 7
Annie Letellier 4

The only certain way way is to trace Adeline's parentage back, but with that name hopefully can't go wrong! I see where you have got this from, but are you wondering if she was from his 1st or 2nd marriage? Imposible to tell without finding her father:

1901 England Census

Name: Adeline Letellier
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Hanley
Ecclesiastical parish: Northwood Holy Trinity
County/Island: Staffordshire

Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Hanley

Jane Letellier 68
Adeline Letellier 47
Eliza Letellier 34
Adeline Letellier 17

Just for funreally - name a bit more exoticit seems!

Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
Letellier Honoré Lazare Macclesfield 8a 148
Lettellier _onore Lazare Macclesfield 8a 148
ROWLEY Jane Macclesfield 8a 148

I am researching Adeline Letellier b 1884 I think she is a grandaughter of Honorius Lazurus Letellier by his second marriage to a Jane Rowley Macclesfield 1853. can anyone verify this please?

sarah

1871 Aston Erdington D12 > 4
John Pointon 1828 staffs Glass and China Gilder
Marian 1831 Staffs (John Henry had daughter Marian A 1878)
Mary Alice 1853
John Henry 1853 Glass and chine gilder
Maria Louisa Frances 1859. married Henry Taylor in 1880.
1881 in leeds Henry comercial traveller in fancy goods,and they have a 15 year old servant.

Maryb

This info off Ancestry tree.

John Pointon married Marian Letellier 10/5/1847 she was baptised 1837 in the name of Maria Louisa Hariet Letellier she was born 1831 died 1883.

Her parents were Honorius Lazarus letellier born about 1783 in San Domingo West Indies and died Stoke on trent Sept 1857,he married Jane born 1806 died 1842.

1851 Honorius a pottery manager with Maria Pointon and John Pointon.

Thanks so much for the extra info, and apologies for delay, we had moved on to page 2 & I missed you all.

I will print it all off and read it through .
Some certs need ordering I think.
Thanks again.
Chris

Leah/Ada/Rose's father is on the 1881 as a Tin work plater and is dead by 1891 - possible he joined the army and the family went to South Africa. I think one of the Boer wars was about this time.

1891
Ada is b. Birmigham, but Rose 8..was b. Africa.


Gwyn

Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
HINCE Ada Birmingham 6d 53

Beat me to it, Maureen!

Parents' marriage?

Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>GRIFFITHS Mary Ann B Birmingham 6d 266
HANDS Alfred Birmingham 6d 266
>>>>>>>Pointon John Henry Birmingham 6d 266
Poole Mary Teresa Birmingham 6d 266

In 1901 and 1911 Ada is born Birmingham!!

If that is his birth, this could be him in 1881 (father is a Glass and china gilder):

1881 England Census
about John A.W. Pointon
Name: John A.W. Pointon
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John H.
Mother's Name: Maryann B.
Gender: Male
Where born: Aston Birmingham

Civil parish: Handsworth
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Archibald Rd
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Handsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John H. Pointon 28
Maryann B. Pointon 27
John A.W. Pointon 5
Marian A. Pointon 3
Charles H. Pointon 1

Looks good,Potty!
1881
Name: John A.W. Pointon
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John H.
Mother's Name: Maryann B.
Gender: Male
Where born: Aston Birmingham
Civil parish: Handsworth
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Archibald Rd
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Handsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John H. Pointon 28
Maryann B. Pointon 27
John A.W. Pointon 5
Marian A. Pointon 3
Charles H. Pointon 1
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2835; Folio: 15; Page: 23

Maureen

I think your right with the birth reg Potty,

while you are here girls can you tell me this,
on 1891 Ada Hince (Leah's sister) she is born in Orange free state, south africa.
Are you able to help with this one too.
Much Appreciatedthanks to you all.
Chris

Potty's find looks promising, but I agree, you definitely need his marriage cert.
Jan

1901
Leah is listed as a jeweller too.

Gwyn

Could this be his birth reg:
John Alexander W Pointon
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Aston (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 401 (click to see others

Oh
that is good news Brummiejan
as he goes on to marry Leah Hince

Thank you

1901

Look who else is there at 4 Blythe Street

Name: Warwick Painton
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Handsworth, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 212
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Richard 47
Leah Hince 20
Rose Hince 18
Ada Hince 15
Alfred Lack 29
Warwick Painton 25
Arthur H Sankey 22