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Hi ,I am having trouble getting cencus results with G.R.Ihave one form
Ansestry in front of me but cannot get it on this site! Its 1901 and 1911
cencus for robert Mawdsley aged 49 married to margaret,also aged 49.with children.george aged 20,kate aged 18,thomas 10,and joseph
aged 8 .I know the parents ages have been variable.but i just cannot
find them on this site.I have even looked for the children no joy.they all
come from formby lancs and the last address on the 1901 cencus was
42 demark street waterloo seaforth lancs can any body help please help thank you

?

MAWDSLEY, Robt Head Married M 61 1850 Jobbing Gardner Lancs Formbs Formby VIEW
MAWDSLEY, Margaret Wife Married
38 years [ 9 children 5 living ] F 57 1854 Laundress Lancs Formbs VIEW
MAWDSLEY, George Son Widower M 30 1881 House Painter And Jobber Lancs Formbs VIEW
MAWDSLEY, Joseph Son M 11 1900 Fisher Boy Lancs Formby VIEW
MAWDSLEY, Thomas Son Single M 21 1890 Coal Trimmer Lancs Seaforth VIEW
MAWDSLEY, Robert Grandchild M 9 1902 Lancs Waterloo VIEW
DRAMMOND, Ellen Lodger Widow F 26 1885 Resident Dublin VIEW
DRAMMOND, Isabel Lodger Daughter M 2 1909 VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22311 Reference:
RG14PN22311 RG78PN1318 RD455 SD1 ED12 SN50

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Crosby Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Waterloo

Address:
56 Argo Road Waterloo Near Liverpool

1911?
MAWDSLEY, Robt Head Married M 61 1850 Jobbing Gardner Lancs Formbs Formby VIEW
MAWDSLEY, Margaret Wife Married 38 years F 57 1854 Laundress Lancs Formbs VIEW
MAWDSLEY, George Son Widower M 30 1881 House Painter And Jobber Lancs Formbs VIEW
MAWDSLEY, Joseph Son M 11 1900 Fisher Boy Lancs Formby VIEW
MAWDSLEY, Thomas Son Single M 21 1890 Coal Trimmer Lancs Seaforth VIEW
MAWDSLEY, Robert Grandchild M 9 1902 Lancs Waterloo VIEW
DRAMMOND, Ellen Lodger Widow F 26 1885 Resident Dublin VIEW
DRAMMOND, Isabel Lodger Daughter M 2 1909 VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22311 Reference:
RG14PN22311 RG78PN1318 RD455 SD1 ED12 SN50

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Crosby Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Waterloo

Address:
56 Argo Road Waterloo Near Liverpool County:
Lancashire

9 children - 5 Living, 4 Dead


1901
Name: Robert Mawdsley
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret
Mother's Name: Clara
Gender: Male
Where born: Formby, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Waterloo
Ecclesiastical parish: Waterloo St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 42 Denmark Street

Occupation: Master Gardner

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Crosby
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 301
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Mawdsley 49
Margaret Mawdsley 49 born: Formby, Lancashire,
George Mawdsley 20 born: Formby, Lancashire,
Kate Mawdsley 18 born: Formby, Lancashire,
Thomas Mawdsley 10 born: Seaforth, Lancashire
Joseph Mawdsley 8 born: Great Crosby, Lancashire
Clara Calvert 40 - Mother born: Liverpool, Lancashire
Grace A Calvert 19 - Daughter born: Liverpool, Lancashire
Annie Berry 13 - Servant

hi ya,Did you get that info from this site?. I dont know why i am having so many
problems. Thank you so much.

OH tHANKS Catherine were did you get all that info what programme are you all using???????? this is brill i hope i can print it all off .Thank you so much.

Hello Lily,
I use ancestry for census look ups.
Anything else you need?
Catherine

1891 just in case:-

Name: Robert Mawdsley
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Formby, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Bootle
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard
Town: Bootle
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 41 Armstrong Street

Occupation: Gardener

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Mawdsley 36
Margaret Mawdsley 26
Mary M Mawdsley 14 born: Formby, Lancashire
George W Mawdsley 10
Catherine W Mawdsley 7
Thomas R Mawdsley 9/12


and 1881:-
Name: Robert Mawdsley
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Formby, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Formby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Watch Yard Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Formby
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Mawdsley 25
Margaret Mawdsley 24
Mary M. Mawdsley 4
George W. Mawdsley


.................as a matter of interest, this family is living just a couple of doors away:-
George Mawdsley Margaret A. abt 1845 Formby, Lancashire, England Head Formby, Lancashire
Margaret A. Mawdsley George abt 1853 Kirkdale, Lancashire, England Wife Formby, Lancashire
Sarah Mawdsley George, Margaret A. abt 1872 Formby, Lancashire, England Daughter Formby, Lancashire
Mary E. Mawdsley George, Margaret A. abt 1874 Little Altcar, Lancashire, England Daughter Formby, Lancashire
Isabella M. Mawdsley George, Margaret A. abt 1878 Formby, Lancashire, England Daughter Formby, Lancashire
Anne G. Mawdsley George, Margaret A. abt 1880 Formby, Lancashire, England Daughter Formby, Lancashire

Just had another look at the 1901 census and :-
Clara Calvert is not actually living in the same house as Robert and Margaret. She is living 9 Wellington St. Cottage House for Poor Children and is the Matron, so she is not the mother or Margaret.

This could be a marriage for Robert and Margaret:-
Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)
Blundell Kerenhappuch Ormskirk 8b 967
xxxx Mawdsley Robert Ormskirk 8b 967
Rimmer Richard Ormskirk 8b 967
xxxx Seddon Margaret Ormskirk 8b 967

...........birth cert. of one of the children will confirm, or not, if this is the correct one.

Births Mar 1877
Mawdsley Mary Margaret Ormskirk 8b 790

Catherine you are brill thank you so much for your help .I used ancestry last year I am not getting a lot from G.R. I have have had loads of last years print
outs ,out today with a calculater tring to work out some births .marriages and deaths, so i can order some certificates .for Robert and Margaret .but they add
years on and take them off so its going to be hit and miss.Thanks for all your hard work .lily.

Lily,
There is another possible marriage:-
Marriages Mar 1875 (>99%)
MAWDSLEY Robert Preston 8e 721
SUTTON Margaret Preston 8e 721
.......but the other one is more likely as the reg. district is the same reg. dist. as 1881 census and Ormskirk was the reg. dist. for Formby at this time.


The same marriage on Lancashire bmd:-

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MAWDSLEY Robert SEDDON Margaret Ormskirk Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/15/23

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1875
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MAWDSLEY Robert SUTTON Margaret Preston, St John Preston 229/35/65

1891 census has son Thomas born 1890/1 with middle name beginning with R.
Lancashire bmd has this birth which looks to be him:-

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1890
MAWDSLEY Thomas Robert Litherland South Sefton SEDDON LITH/22/20

.....which shows mothers maiden name as Seddon, so 1874 marriage does look to be the correct one.

thanks for that i have got some dates sorted so i can order some certificates.seddon is the right name for my G.G.GRANDMA.SO THATS THE ONE!!!!!!.

1891 also shows children George and Catherine with middle names, so these would also seem to be their births:-

Births Mar 1881
MAWDSLEY George William Ormskirk 8b 820

Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
Mawdsley Catherine Winifred Ormskirk 8b 839

.........middles names are really important when looking for marriages and deaths so should always be included if know.

There's also this one with mother's maiden name Seddon:-
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1893
MAWDSLEY John Joseph Great Crosby South Sefton SEDDON C/24/33
which must be the Joseph in 1901 and 1911 census, but as you can see he was actually born John Joseph.

George is noted in 1911 as being widowed, so he must have married in between the census records.
This is a possible:-
Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
DEVANEY Margaret W. Derby 8b 989
xxxx Mawdsley George William W. Derby 8b 989
xxxx Moss Elizabeth W. Derby 8b 989
QUINN Phillip W.Derby 8b 989

Lancashirebmd show he married Elizabeth Moss:-
MAWDSLEY George W MOSS Elizabeth West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/202/18

George was 20 in 1901 and 30 in 1911 census, so if his wife died in between these dates I would expect her to be in her 20's. There are several deaths for an Elizabeth Mawdsley at this time, but this one is the only one whose age fits:-

Deaths Dec 1907 (>99%)
MAWDSLEY Elizabeth 24 Prescot 8b 544

Do you need anything else Lily?

HI,CATHERINE I HAVE JUST LOST MY POST SO WILL HAVE TO START AGAIN.ALL THE INFO YOU HAVE FOUND IS CORRECT.IT ALL COMES TOGETHER WITH WHAT I HAVE .I AM REALLY GREATFUL FOR THE CHILDRENS BIRTHDATES I ONLY HAD MARY M`S.AND CATHERINES
CATHERINE WAS MARRIED TO A HENRY DEWSBURY.WE HAVE A PROBLEM THOUGH MY GRANDAD WAS JOHN JOSEPH HE WAS BORN IN 1893 AND DIED IN 1944 .WHO IS LITTLE JOE AGE 11 IN 1911 CENCUS.?I CAN REMEMBER MY UNCLE JOE HE DIED IN1969 SO MY MUM TELLS ME.HE WAS 52.MUM SAID HE WAS BORN IN 1916???? THERE ARE LOADS OF OTHERS THAT MY MUM TALKS OF BUT I CANT SEEM TO FIT THEM IN TO THE PICTURE.

This looks to be the death you mention:-

Name: Joseph Mawdsley
Death Registration Month/Year: 1969
Age at death (estimated): 52
Registration district: Liverpool North
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 591

his death cert. may give you a clue as to where he fits in as the birth could have been registered by a member of his family, wife or child.

THANKS FOR THAT .HOW CAN I GET INFO ABOUT A DEATH ?the story go`s like this :-my mum recalls sombody have an accedent while at work
she seemed to think it was my great grandmother.....she was pulled into
a machine and her hair got caught.well i won`t go into detail but she by her hair.it could`nt have been my g.g.grandmother because if my maths are right she lived to 71.but georges wife died young did`nt she!!!!!.i am not at work tommorrow so i am up later han usual.

These are all births Mawdsley - Seddon after 1911:-

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Mawdsley John J Seddon W.Derby 8b 704

Births Mar 1915 (99%)
MAWDSLEY Eva Seddon W. Derby 8b 733

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Mawdsley James Seddon W.Derby 8b 580

Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Mawdsley Florence Seddon W. Derby 8b 594

so we have another John J. Mawdsley born in 1912 and we don't have a Joe born in 1916 but there is a James born in 1917?

The death cert. will give you cause of death.