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it makes me wonder why they never talked about the family,it must have been terrible to lose a daughter in her prime,she must have been a real looker as my grandmother would say,my grandmother was a stunning looking lady her self when she was young,so margaret must have been too.

Did you know any of the siblings or just your gran?

Here's Matilda's marriage:

Matilda H Hartnett
Spouse Surname: Samuel C Hoare
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1938
Registration district: Deptford
Registration county: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1040

There's a death which fits Samuel in 1969 registered Greenwich district.

janice, i never knew any of them,im excited that my nan,ethel had a brother,im going to see if i can find anything on him as i must have relations out there somewhere!!!

Do you have Ancestry?

Are you in/near London cos you might be able to find out more at the London Metropolitan Archives. They have school admission registers -amongst other things- which I have found very useful in the past.

Janice

im finding it hard to keep up xx

i live in kent,20 mins from london,thanks for all this help you have given me ,its great.

Here's a possible marriage for Annie: it would make her 16 at the time but it's the only Annie Hartnett with no middle name. Circumstantial as we don't know if she actually married.

Annie Hartnett
Spouse Surname: James A Littlejohn
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1937
Registration district: Chelsea
Registration county: Middlesex
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 965

im going to stop for a while or my children will die of starvation LOL,i will come back on this evening and sit and write it all down onto paper and take it fom there,its really important to me and i want to get it right this time!!!! im all excited inside,its very addictive!!! have a great day and thanks again,maxine

There are 2 people with Annie in their tree too.

hello,im back on again,im going to see if i can find the lady chris mentioned on the site and mail her,fingers crossed!!!

According to the 1901 census, Matilda has a middle name but it isn't mentioned on the marriage posted on Page 1

Matilda Eliz Martin
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel Alfd
Mother's Name: Matilda
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Bermondsey

Samuel Alfd Martin 31
Matilda Martin 29
Alfd Thos Martin 7
Matilda Eliz Martin 6
Harriett Emily Martin 4
Helen Martin 2
George Charles Martin 7 months

thanks janice,also i have mailed the lady who has a hartnett in her tree,thanks xx

Maxine, do you have Ancestry?
There's a public member tree on there where someone has put photos of Annie and Matilda Elizabeth :-)
You definitely have living relatives!!!
Janice

i dont have ancestry......does it say who it is?????

Yes - sexybabe!! LOL

I'll send you an e-mail.
Janice

Looking at the tree on Ancestry, Rosina was wife no 1 and Matilda wife no 2 as someone said previously. Also Richard's grandfather was from Cork in Ireland.

janice.this is PURE TORTURE LOL !!!

Well if it's too exciting, try doing the ironing ;-)

any excuse not too!!!! i have to pick my husband up from work at 9.30 so i will log off shortly,ive just been explaining to one of my teenage sons why this is so important to me but i dont think he really understood... must be his age!!!! ( I DONT KNOW ANY REAL FAMILY ON MY DADS SIDE AS HE WAS ADOPTED) so getting to know my mothers side is just a bit more important to me.Have a great evening,im logging off and im going to actually sit on my hands to stop me logging straight back on!! nite nite xx