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HOUSEHOLD CANNING CHARLOTTE F 1889 22 West Ham Essex
HOUSEHOLD CANNING ELSIE F 1898 13 West Ham Essex
HOUSEHOLD CANNING FREDRICK M 1893 18 West Ham Essex
HOUSEHOLD CANNING GEORGE M 1891 20 West Ham Essex
HOUSEHOLD CANNING HORACE M 1902 9 West Ham Essex
HOUSEHOLD CANNING WILLIAM M 1856 55 West Ham Essex
HOUSEHOLD CANNING HARRY M 1900 11 West Ham Essex


Dee x

1911 census
Person: CANNING, Elsie
Address: 7 Lloyd Villas East Ham

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

CANNING, William Head Widower M 55 1856 Engineer Labourer Ecktringswell Hants
CANNING, George Son Single M 20 1891 General Labourer East Ham Essex
CANNING, Fredrick Son Single M 18 1893 General Labourer East Ham Essex
CANNING, Harry Son Single M 11 1900 East Ham Essex
CANNING, Horace Son Single M 9 1902 East Ham Essex
CANNING, Charlotte Daughter Single F 22 1889 Housekeeper East Ham Essex
CANNING, Elsie Daughter Single F 13 1898 East Ham Essex


also says married 31 years, (eventhough he's a widower) eleven children born to the marriage and states all still alive in 1911

The birth area for this Alfred Prater interested me;


1861 England Census about Alfred Prater
Name: Alfred Prater
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Ecckinswell, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Eccinswell
Ecclesiastical parish: Eccinswell
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Kingsclere
Sub-registration district: Kingsclere
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
George Prater 53
Hannah Prater 43
Roda Prater 14
Charlotte Prater 8
Alfred Prater 6

1871 England Census about Alfred Prater
Name: Alfred Prater
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Itchingswell, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Sidmonton
Town: Sidmonton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Kingsclere
Sub-registration district: Kingsclere
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
George Garrett 43
Eliza Garrett 39
Alfred Garrett 13
Jane Garrett 8
Sarah Garrett 7
Mary Garrett 5
Bertrice Garrett 4
Richard Garrett 2
George Butler 25
Alfred Prater 16

I can't see him after 1871 so did he change his name to William Cannings???


Dee x

And William Cannings chidren have names similar to Alfred Praters siblings!!!

Rhoda and Charlotte!!


Dee x

Yes, I've been looking at that angle.

Especially with Jane Prater born 1880.

My personal feeling is that William and Alfred are the same man. Why does William change his birth from Leeds to Deptford and then when he's older he relaxes more and gives his real birth area??!!


Dee x

I reckon it would be worth getting that marriage cert.

Ozi

yep, I think looking at all the info it makes sense, the birth year, the marriage record and finally the place of birth, it all leads to Alfred changing his name for some reason. Well guys, you have solved one mystery re the birth certificate and we seem to have opened up a whole new cupboard and found a shed load of skeletons possibly.

I can thank you all enough. You all really have kept the community reputation alive.

Thanks again, Jason

I mean marriage certifcate found.....until my next mystery. bye for now...

Jason