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I have found this marriage for Mary Rachael Thorn
Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%)
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Possible spouses

Congdon Eliza E Stonehouse 5b 519
Cox Thomas E Stonehouse 5b 519
Hardy Frederick E Stonehouse 5b 519
THORN Mary Rachel E Stonehouse 5b 519


I think that the only way you are going to get the mothers maiden name confirmed is by getting the birth certificate.

Will have another look for the mother.

Soz Jacqueline had to go out, I don't mind having another look, gives me a little break from my own research. Just in answer to what you have just said, am assuming that you are now looking for a birth mary racheal thorn, I will have a look.

Nicola

hi guys got no credits left but found mary racheal thorn in genes reunited it has found just one entry between 1841 and 43 1 came up for 1842 could anyone look but tried it wouldnt come up with the mothers name ruff

tried them all only jahn and james came up with anything on family search

the children i have now are coming up living in modbury with wifes on family search

on these piece they lived at 3 coyte modbury kingsbridge i know these are the right ones so will delete others

i have just put betsy in and all come up living in modbury in 1851 all born modbury i entered place of birth as modbury kingsbridge i think they all correct names cos last grandma there

she lived in modbury as children born there and she was married in modbury it says on family search but myself cant find anything but that im trying to find mary rachel thorn as that was my last grandma born 1842
i have worked out the children they gave me from parish are ranged from 1828 - 18 37 but children dates withlast grandma are 1833-1848 so big difference so just checking each one

if your fed up looking its ok if you have had enough

I have found them on 1841 census, am afraid they don't have no other relatives living with them, the name as been mistranscribed as Thom

Name: Thomas Thom
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: Modbury
Hundred: Ermington
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Kingsbridge
Sub-registration district: Modbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Thom 40
Betsey Thom 30
Betsey Thom 8
Thomas Thom 6
James Thom 3

Nicola

the names are betsy mother 1842
betsy thorn 1833
james thorn 1837
mary rachel thorn 1842 last grandmother married to thomas cox r silcox
john thorn 1845
sarah g thorn 1848
other dates from parish are a lot of years earlier

I see what y ou mean by how difficult they are to find, am looking on the 1841 census and haven't found anything that matches what you have as of yet. also have been looking at birth/christining for betsey ruff to see if parents details comes up too but nothing. Is it possible that she wasn't from around that area, but moved there later on in life before she married?

Nicola

I have found this for a James thorn, Kingsbridge is the registration district, but after looking up the area Modbury is also within the same area.

Births Mar 1838 (>99%)
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THORN James Kingsbridge 9 373
Nicoola

i have gone back into parish in modbury put in mary racheal thorn it has come up with one as mary racheal born 1809 but parents are joseph nd mary

the ones i have on census from 1851 works out children are older than what they would be in parish records
maybe wrong children off census as the parish records must be more correct on census they are all olderat the parish they have children named joseph 1828
thomas 1830
betsy 1833
thomas 1835 james 1837

on census the children are different 1851 betsy mother betsy daughter james son mary rachel daughter john son sarah 3 i need to follow these children as mary racheal thorn is the name of my last grandma married to thomas cox (silcox)
i think im looking for a different betsy not sure

i851 census has mother betsy and children only have christning dates sorry
in house hold betsy 42 betsy 18 james 13 mary 8 john 6 sarah 3
but all children born in modbury and are listed in modbury chapel

it does say they got maried in modbury 18 september 1827

Have y ou actually found all of them together on the census records, have been looking at the 1841 census and they are a few children that look like they are living on their own lol no other family members living with them which is strange. Anyway, do you have the name and correct year for each child as have tried looking on the lds site and nothing is coming up with correct location.

Nicola

youngest 1828 eldest 1837 all born modbury

children were born 1828-1830-1833-1835-1837 were the dates christened

ok just seen your post, do you know what year the youngest child was born, is it before 1837 or after? Is just a thought, If after 1837 is possible that you may be able to find the registration on birth index and you can then get the birth certificate.

Nicola