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Hi Bob

glad that it all makes sense now. I've been down quite a few wrong roads but I have received information from very helpful people on here- JLe

thankyou janet
i am now moving down my relatives or up depending how you look at it strange how it all falls into place
when you start with the correct info
thankyou so much for your help
regards bob

Hi Bob
The other free site to look at is
www.freebmd

This might help with birth, marriages and deaths after Sep 1837. Anything before may be on familysearch.

Happy searching- J

thankyou janet
this is one site i have never been to perhaps i will explore more it has just restored my energy to carry on with my tree strange how your intrest wanes after mixing up families hopfully i can keep going thank you janet for all your help
regards bob

Hi Bob
www.familysearch.com

If you enter this into the address bar it will bring you onto this mormon site. You will see where to enter Thomas Jessop. Enter his year of birth, 1877
In this instance you won't have to enter anything else. Press enter. It will bring up two Thomas Jessops. The one you want is the 1881 census. Just click on. When you have done this just look to the right of the screen and click on the word 'household' . This will allow you to look at the family of Thomas.-JLe

hi janet

sorry it took a while to get back to you been having a couple of bad days . is familysearch on this site or is it on another? i was obiviosly following the wrong tomas i had his father as joseph its so easy to get lost in the jessop family
i did not realise how many their are it just shows how important family info is. i have just found out about two cusins from my sister so i need to get in touch with tem as my sis says one of them knows a lot about my family on the jessop sidethe are gladyses daughters regards bob

Hi Bob
now that Jack's parent have been established as Thomas Jessop and Harriet Flatters it might be worth having a look at the 1881 census. This is free on familysearch if you haven't access to them. This shows the family who I believe your Thomas Jessop 1877 belongs to.
Henry Jessop 43 Hand loom weaver living Hill Top Lepton Huddersfield
Alice Jessop 40
John 20
Fred 17
Charles Henry 13
Ellen 11
Almond- yes that is correct- 9
Sarah Amelia 7
THOMAS JESSOP 4-your grandfather
Alice Ann 2
You wil see there are a couple of duplicate names which are in the next generation- hope this helps- J

hi janet
thankyou i was folowing the wrong tom their are so many of them its dificult to check, with so many toms calling their sons tom. aah well back to .it
thankyou regards bob

Hi Bob
The next generation, that is your fathers parents Harriet and Thomas Jessop.
Harriet Flatters was born in Dec 1879 in Sleaford Lincolnshire.
She was in Kirkburton Huddersfield on the 1891 census aged 12.
She married your grandfather Thomas Jessop in 1906 when she would be about 27 years old.
I believe your grandfather was Thomas Jessop born 1877 in Lepton which is a couple of miles from Kirkburton.- J

thankyou janet
yes i think they are correct if harriet and tom were born in 1857they wold be in their fifties when tom was born 1917 is this normal?thankyou for all your help perhaps i should return to jack and find more answers
regards bob

Hi Bob
First of all may I say thank you for sharing the information regarding your stroke, in order to explain what must be frustration for you sometimes. Well done you for your endeavour, but family history can be confusing for all of us sometimes and I have received a lot of help from others when I can't see the wood for the trees
.
Yes you can do virtually all research on line but perhaps it might be better to deal with one thing at a time.

You have asked about Jack,Charles Henry,Gladys Lucy and Fred.
The best I can come up with is the same as you for Jack- zilch
What about these?
Charles Henry Jessop born Dec qtr 1907
Gladys Jessop probably Mar qtr 1910
Lucy Jessop June qtr 1914
Fred Jessop born Sept qtr 1917 and possibly death Jun qtr 1918.All born Huddersfield
do these fit in?- JLe

hi janet
the family i am looking for is lucy , charles henry,gladys and jack olso fred , who died early
i am pretty much house bound so it is a ordeal going to the library which is a 14 mile round trip i was hoping to be able to do it all on the internet olso the same to get to the registry office. perhaps tom and harriet were to old to have this family
as the y were born 1914 to1911
regards bob

hi janet
the family i am looking for is lucy , charles henry,gladys and jack olso fred , who died early
i am pretty much house bound so it is a ordeal going to the library which is a 14 mile round trip i was hoping to be able to do it all on the internet olso the same to get to the registry office. perhaps tom and harriet were to old to have this family
as the y were born 1914 to1911
regards bob

hi janet
perhaps i should explain why some of my posts are not understandable back in 2004 i had a stroke which affected the little gray cells . so i now think that everyone
knows what i am talking about ,so when my mother died we cleared her flat and i found photos newspaper clippings about the family. so i decided to search ny family history
the thing is i remember my father having problems gettin his b c they told him he was not registered ,he was born into a quaker family jan 17 1911was harriet to old to have a new family?regards bob

By ordering the marriage certificate of Harriet and Thomas, hopefully it will have Thomas's age, if it says over 21, worry not as his father, together with his fathers occupation should be entered on the cert. Looking at all the Tom Jessops and Thomas Jessops of the surrounding area I would be looking at Thomas Jessop c. 1877 living at Lepton. He is the son of Henry and Alice, but that doesn't fit in with your Thomas Jessop 1857.
My theory is that 1881 there are 5 Tom/Thomas Jessops. By 1891 there are 3. By 1901 one Tom Jessop is married but he came from Bradley Mills which is near town centre and the only Thomas Jessop, not married, living 2 miles from Harriet Flatters is the one born around 1877 and is a coal miner hewer. Does that occupation fit in......it would if you were looking for some belligerent ancestor! -Happy searching-jLe

Hi Robert
I've found Harriet's family on the 1891 in Kirkburton which at least explains how she appeared in Huddersfield when she was born in Lincs. Do any of these names ring a bell?
Abraham 49 Farm Servant
Eliza 46
David 16
Lucy 14
Harriet 12
Henry 11
Emerson 7
Mira 5
Florence 3.
They are all living just a few miles from Dalton. -JLe

Hi Robert
Perhaps before trying to sort out Thomas Jessop 1857 it would be better to concentrate on finding the correct Thomas Jessop who is your grandfather. Does the date I have supplied for Harriet Flatters born in Sleaford correspond with the information, i.e. her age in 1911. If there is any doubt it is always better to start by ordering the birth certificate of your father then you can be certain that you are following the correct Jessop. If there is an uncle with the surname Flatters that looks more than hopeful. Are you saying that both Thomas Jessops have wives called Hannah, which could be Hannah Flatters and Hannah Hodge.
I'm sure it can all be sorted. -JLe

hi janet
this is one of the problems i am having ,finding the correct thomas in my family his wife is harriet , not sure of the surname i have no family to ask or they dont remember
i found harriet in martin lincs on the 1911 census with my father jack uncle charles aunt gladys with the correct dates of birthi think she is a flatters i found a newspaper clipping wich written on it was dads uncle the surname was flatters
regards bob

Hi Robert
Can you confirm which Thomas Jessop you are trying to trace. Is Thomas Jessop born 1857 your great grandfather.?
Following on from' the family were in Lincs in the 1860's' with the family of Harriet Flatters. Can I confirm that Harriet Flatters born mar qtr 1879 in Sleaford, is the right person who married Thomas Jessop in Huddersfield in 1906?. I believe her father to be Abraham Flatters and he appears to be a widower on the 1861 census-J

Hi Robert
I think we seem to be at cross purposes. The Tom Jessop I am talking about was born 1857 and married Harriet Hodge in Sept 1876 in Huddersfield and lived in Dalton. On the 1891 census he is described as Cart/ Waggoner which is what I thought Dee was referring to.

When you mentioned about the family living in 'lancs' which has now been altered to 'lincs' this is why I explained about the lancs library. -JLe