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Hello.
Sarah Banks married John Pitcher in Seaford 12th. Dec.1826
They had two children, George (b.28th.Aug.1834) and Elizabeth (b.1846)
Can not find anywhere the date of her death, but probably after 1870, as she was still working at that time. Also what happened to her husband? John Pitcher is not in the 1851 census for Seaford. Did he die? or devorced?

Hope someone can help.

Thanks.

Glenn

For clarity, the 1851 census.

1851 RG number: HO107 Piece: 1637 Folio: 252 Page: 7
Reg. District: Eastbourne Sub District: Eastbourne
Address: Wheelers Row, Seaford County: Sussex
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PITCHER, Sarah Head Widow F 45 1806 School Mistress Seaford Sussex
PITCHER, George Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Errand Boy Seaford Sussex
PITCHER, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1847 Scholar Seaford Sussex

Sarah is listed as a Widow in 1851, however there is no death for John in Sussex. Is it possible he died over the border in Kent?

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1871 RG number: RG10 Piece: 1041 Folio: 73 Page: 6
Reg. District: Eastbourne Sub District: Eastbourne
Address: East Street, Seaford County: Sussex
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PITCHER, Sarah Head F 65 1806 Sussex
PITCHER, Elizabeth Daughter F 24 1847 Sussex
BANKS, Eliza Niece F 2 1869 Sussex

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1881 RG number: RG11 Piece: 1069 Folio: 12 Page: 18
Reg. District: Lewes Sub District: Lewes
Address: 22, Western Rd, Lewes St Ann & St Mary Westout County: Sussex
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COLEMAN, James Head Married M 49 1832 Carpenter Lindfield Sussex
COLEMAN, Mary Ann Wife Married F 52 1829 Seaford Sussex
COLEMAN, William Son Single M 23 1858 Carpenter Newick Sussex
COLEMAN, Ernest Son Single M 16 1865 Carpenter Firle Sussex
COLEMAN, Albert H Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar Brighton Sussex
PITCHER, Sarah Mother In Law Widow F 75 1806 Annuitant Seaford Sussex


Tracey x

Name: Sarah Pitcher
Estimated birth year: abt 1805
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 79
District: Lewes
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 114

Lewis reg district covered Seaford

this entry would also be on FreeBMD

If someone could look at this image on 1841 please.

Strangely, it looks as though she was already a widow on here, although it is difficult to read and it has been crossed out?


1841 England Census
about George Pitcher
Name: George Pitcher
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil parish: Seaford
Hundred: Flexborough
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England


Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Pitcher 30
Mary Ann Pitcher 13
Robt Pitcher 12
Willm Pitcher 8
George Pitcher 6


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1115; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Seaford; County: Sussex; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 10; Page: 13; Line: 15; GSU roll: 464162.

Dea x

You didn't ask, but have you got this birth ???

Name: John Pitcher
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Aug 1830
Baptism/Christening Place: SEAFORD,SUSSEX,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 05 May 1830
Father's Name: John Pitcher
Mother's Name: Sarah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: J14848-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1067361
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Dea,

Your right, it does say Widow... Hmmm.....

The enumerator has crossed it out when he has transcribed his figures across.

Soooooooo, devine conception for some of the children?


T x

Elizabeth's christening does not name a father???

Name: Elizabeth Pitcher
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 18 Oct 1846
Baptism/Christening Place: SEAFORD,SUSSEX,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 18 Aug 1846

Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah Pitcher
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: K14848-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1067361
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

SO... I think we should be looking for John's death prior to 1841 ??


Dea x

Have you got the birth certificate for Elizabeth, to see who is claimed as Father?

Patricia,

There were no 'birth certficates' in 1828!

It's baptism records only!


T x

Ok, so he was def alive in 1826!

Groom's Name: John Pitcher
Bride's Name: Sarah Banks
Marriage Date: 12 Dec 1826
Marriage Place: Seaford,Sussex,England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M14848-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1067361
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

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Event(s):
Birth:
1804 Of, Seaford, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death:
25 SEP 1834
Burial:

Hmmm lots of children born to the couple...

Mary Ann - 1827
Robert - 1829
John - 1830
William Thomas - 1832
George - 1834

Elizabeth - 1846

I think John has died after 1834 and before 1846!


Tracey x

John is on Christening records of:

Mary Ann, 1827
Robert, 1829
John, 1830
William Thomas, 1832
and George in 1835 (born 28th August, 1834.

So he seems to have died somewhere between 1834 and 1841.

Dea x

EDIT - Snap Tracey
Xxx

Ssusan,

Thats interesting, but you did not state that is a submitted record. These are a good guideline, but not always correct.

We need the actual death entry, Glenn??? You still with us? You might need to contact the records office in Sussex and ask them to do a search for you for the death (with the suggested date) and see what they can prove for you. (there might be a charge for this)

Tracey x

OOOhh - It looks like Susan has found him - she posted above.

Sorry Susan, I missed that - well done!

Is it submitted or extracted??

Dea x

Hahaha, Dea... at least we are consistant!

Dea, Susan did not state it's a submitted record, and while there are 2 entries for this person (same date) we should still get proof, submitted records have a nasty habit of biting you on the bum!



T x

That is why i added the ????????? at the top.

As always Trace (tee hee) !!

Dea x

Sorry Susan, but ???? doesn't mean anything!!

Simply adding that it was a submitted record and explaining the meaning of this to a newbie (IE the poster) would have been better!


Tracey x

A submitted entry Dea.