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Hi folks. I am struggling with Frederick John as the 1891 says he wasa born in Birmingham with the spelling of Baylis which has changed by spelling mistake to Bayliss. His wife was Caroline Alice Earl and his children were Frederick William and Florence Lilian. His occupation was wood carver/carrier.

Please help. Does anyone have any ideas of what I can do to find him and his parents?

Thanks.

Alison

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Marriages Dec
Bayliss Frederick John ..Hackney 1b 745

EARL Caroline Alice ..Hackney 1b 745

Hi Gwyn.

Thanks I had them married, but not where or when, but guessed it was somewhere in London as that is where his wife was born. Hi wife's mother's maiden name was French.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Frederick J Ohn Bayliss
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Spouse Name: Caroline Alice Carl
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1877
Parish: St Peter
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: John Bayliss (decd) Cabinet Maker



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Peter, Hackney, Register of marriages, P79/PET, Item 014

EDIT - too late

1881

BAYLIS, Frederick John Head Married M 28 1853 Wood Carver
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLIS, Caroline Alice Wife Married F 28 1853
Shoreditch
Middlesex VIEW
BAYLIS, Frederick William Son Single M 2 1879
Shoreditch
Middlesex VIEW
BAYLIS, Florence Lilian Daughter Single F 0 1881
Shoreditch
Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
398 Folio:
96 Page:
23

Registration District:
Shoreditch Sub District:
Hoxton Old Town Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Shoreditch Municipal Borough:
Address:
6, Penn Street, Shoreditch County:
Middlesex

Hello Alison,

There are a couple that suit DOB on the 1861 census, I would suggest if you have his birth reg, that you send for the cert to verify his parents names. A middle name was not always recorded so he may be down as just Frederick

If you dont have access to the 1861 census i can post you the info?

Hi Choccy.

Could Carl be a spelling mistake?

Is this him in 1871


census - household transcription
Person: BAYLIS, Frederick J
Address: De Beauvoir Crescent, St Leonard Shoreditch

Cost:
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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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BAYLIS, William Head M 43 1828 Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLIS, Elizabeth Wife F 42 1829 Nottinghamshire VIEW
BAYLIS, Frederick J Nephew M 18 1853 Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLIS, Annie Niece F 6 1865 Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
460 Folio:
16 Page:
26

Registration District:
Shoreditch Sub District:
Hoxton Old Town Enumeration District:
23 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Leonard Shoreditch Municipal Borough:
Address:
De Beauvoir Crescent, St Leonard Shoreditch County:
London, Middlesex



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Hi Michael.

Definitely not this guy as he would have been approximately eleven years younger than his son who was born around 1879!!

Thanks anyway

Hi Ann

No I don't have access to the 1861 Census.

Hi Ann

This is a possibility for him - shame no occupation details taken at the time....

Thanks though...

1871
The nephew in London was a wood carver.

Gwyn

The marriage is definitely Frederick John Bayliss and Caroline Alice EARL.


If you let me have your e-mail address I can send the image to you.



1901

BAYLISS, Frederick J Head Married M 48 1853 Retired Wood Carrier
Birmingham VIEW
BAYLISS, Caroline Wife Married F 48 1853
Finsbury
London VIEW
BAYLISS, Frederick Son Single M 22 1879 Mercantile Clerk
Hoxton
London VIEW
BAYLISS, Florence L Daughter Single F 20 1881 Infants Milliner
Hoxton
London VIEW
BAYLISS, Ada Kate Daughter Single F 18 1883 Millinery Machinist
Kingsland VIEW
BAYLISS, Mabel F Daughter F 16 1885 Mot Cap Machinist
Kingsland
London VIEW
BAYLISS, Percy J Son M 12 1889
Hornsey
London Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
205 Folio:
64 Page:
50

Registration District:
Hackney Sub District:
Stoke Newington Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary

Civil Parish:
Stoke Newington Municipal Borough:
Address:
8, Kersley Road, Stoke Newington County:
London

Hi Gwyn.

This sounds even more promising!!!

1871
William the head of family, born Birmingham was a wood carver master....employing 3 men and 6 boys

Gwyn

Deaths Jun 1901 (>99%)
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Bayliss Frederick John 48 Hackney 1b 232

Hi Gwyn.

Any idea where?

Hi Choccy.

That's a shame as, if correct, it means he never got to meet his grandson.

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census - household transcription
Person: BAYLISS, Fredk
Address: Gilbert...House, Causeway, Yardley

Cost:
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census search results 1861 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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BAYLISS, John Head Married M 37 1824 Wire Drawer
Sutton Coldfield
Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLISS, Emma Wife Married F 40 1821 Drawer Wife
Tamworth
Staffordshire VIEW
BAYLISS, Henry J Son M 10 1851 Scholar
Sutton Coldfield
Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLISS, Fredk Son M 8 1853 Scholar
Sutton Coldfield
Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLISS, Anne E Daughter F 2 1859
Sutton Coldfield
Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
2216 Folio:
105 Page:
13

Registration District:
Solihull Sub District:
1 Solihull Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Yardley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Gilbert...House, Causeway, Yardley County:
Warwickshire



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