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Name: Eliza Huntley
Death Registration Month/Year: 1966
Age at death (estimated): 89
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 137

Edit...Still keep coming back to this one,its the only one that has any possibility of being her on Freebmd.

Births Sep 1875
PARFITT Elizabeth Pontypool 11a 157

she died 20/02/1966 in adeline st Cardiff

on marr cert occupation coal hewer address 15 heol las Llantrisant in 1940

on her marr cert it states she is a spinster in 1940 and George is a widower

Ok..
There is an Elizabeth Parfitt born 1875 AND an Eliza Parfitt born 1887

Births Dec 1887
PARFITT Eliza Pontypool 11a 146

And if she says on her marriage in 1940 that she was 63 then she is saying she was born in 1887ish not 1875ish.

I have looked at all the census data and I do believe that Eliza and Elizabeth are 2 different children.

There is a Chelsea pensioner record of a Thomas Parfitt who could well be her father who was born LLantrisant in 1869
British Army Service Records 1760-1913

First name(s): Thomas

Last name: PARFITT

Calculated year of birth: 1868

Parish of birth: Hantrissant<<Llantrisant.

Town of birth: Pontypridd

County of birth: Glamorganshire

Age at attestation: 21 years 7 months

Attestation date: 24 June 1889

Attestation corps: Welch Regiment

Attestation soldier number: 2524

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 3610 / 135

Next of Kin Henry Parfitt,Porth Glamorgan
Thomas,s occupation as a civvy was Collier.

Now how do I prove it.?

Let me think on it while feeding all at the homestead...

you,re being very helpful thanks
although Eliza from Aberbeeg has been listed as Elizabeth too on a different census. she is definately 1877 rather than 1887

So you think she knocked 10 years off her age when she married ?

But the ELIZA on 1901 is definatley 13 on census image and so born 1888 ish,just like Eliza says on her marriage cert.

I have a "Wild Theory" as our friend Janey would say, which I will explain in a short while,but back to feeding and thinking for now...

No... Eliza was 63 in 1940 which makes her born in 1877. I am eager to hear your theory.You don't think that she may have been born abroad if her father was in the army?

I am sorry ,I was always c**p at maths and still am by the look of it.

I have had an emergency and had to go to vets with our geriatric Cocker aged 14 as she suddenly collapsed earlier(but is much better now and as normal running about like a puppy) and I will have to give it while to collect my thoughts again and have another look at things.

I hope your dog is ok got 3 of my own....
just been looking at Elizabeth from Pontypool born 1874, on1881 census. She becomes Eliza A on the 1891 census born 1876 living with mum Joyce dad thomas and brother william plus a few others. I would like to think this may be her but nothing in fact to prove that it is especially as dads profession is coal miner and her marriage cert says he was a soldier. I don't know if she was born in Wales. Her granddaughter is quite sure of the date of birth can I still get hold of a birth certificate with her date of birth and her fathers details?

Only if you know where she was born I am afraid.

I will look at all this again tomorrow

You said at the start of your post she was born in 1875....there is a tree on Ancestry that gives the same date of birth but 1877?

Have you got info from other trees?

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No I haven't I will check the date of birth again

Wild Theory time for you Nan.

On her marriage she says shes 63 which makes her 1877ish birth,the same as the one Ginny found on Ancestry.

Her Father she says was a Thomas Parfitt,soldier.
That of course COULD have been made up,but going on the assumption its not.

This birth could be a slightly late registration for her.

Births Sep 1877
MAITLAND Eliza Amy P Pancras 1b 73

And the reason I say that is because maybe the P stands for Parfitt and she was born illegitimate ?
I have searched Ancestry for her baptism but it is not on there,nor can I find it anywhere else.

I also can find no trace of her on census or deaths or marriages.

So is this her and born illegitimate she dropped the Maitland in favour of her known fathers name of Parfitt which may be what the P stands for in the birth reg?
But only maybe of course.

Or was she taken in by the Parfitt family as she was one of theirs anyway,although from the wrong side of the blanket.


Only way to find out is to risk the money on ordering it.

That is up to you of course .
There is also the slim possibility that this person left Britain before the 1881 census,but I would not know where to look for passengers before 1890 other than to Australia and do not see her on them.

Is there a marriage record for Thomas Parfitt was he married to a Maitland?
do you have a year and place of birth for him
she definately died 20.02.66 in cardiff I have a copy of her death cert

You can search Freebmd for a marriage ,just as I would.

But if I was to be right you would most likely not find a marriage if she was this child and the P after Eliza Amy stands for Parfitt and she is therefore illegitimate.

Ive re read all the thread and I think Fanny may well be onto something with the illigitimate birth of Eliza

The only way you will be able to confirm this (or not) is to buy the birth certificate

You can search here for free for BMDs

www.freebmd.org.uk

thanks guys I will try and see fingers crossed

thanks guys I will try and see fingers crossed

Will you come back to us Nan and let us know the outcome.......we love a happy ending!

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