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What you may not realise, Gillian, is the fact that the GLOSbmd website has all MMN's transcribed..........hence my reference to the anomaly.

The full entry for Anastasia's find:

Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
Luker William Stroud 6a 737
Marsh Elsie Stroud 6a 737
Payne Elizabeth A Stroud 6a 737
WORKMAN Joseph T Stroud 6a 737

If you do, let us know what it says won't you? I am starting to feel like an honorary member of the Workman family ... !
jan

Sorry Jan - I CAN be a bit frustrating..........nice to see that you have a sense of humour though..... ( you made me smile )...

I guess I will probably have to give in and get the cert

thanks again
Gill

I know her name is Workman, sometimes children were listed under new husband/partner's name for respectability!
If you don't get that cert soon I might have to get it myself!!
Jan

I must be going a bit mad here.......

We are definatley looking for an Ada Workman and nOT Ada beckerston.

Here is Ada's marriage:
Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
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Workman Ada L Nash Dursley 6a 476

She marriad as a 'Workman' .............to James Nash - later they moved to Pontypridd, S.Wales

Ok....thanks Jan

Ada does seem quite elusive doesnt she.....

Thanks very much for all your help today.

Gill

That was one of the first searches Gillian, but speaking personally I couldn't find an obvious match (or an Ada Beckerton either for that matter).
Jan

Hi

I just had a thought............

Is it possible for someone to find in the 1901 census / probably Dursley area:

Ada Lily Workman who would have been just 1 or 2yrs old ?

It may be that she was staying with her grandparents ??

Thanks in adavance

Thanks for that ...its very true.

No, not really resisting - just trying to find out & filter out as much info as possible first.

Sometimes its possible to find the info you really need via an 'alternative' route ( ie playing detective )....but othertimes, you just have to 'give in' and get the cert.

as an example - I feel sure that if I could find Sarah Workmans 1st marriage......I would know whether or not she was MY Ada Lily Workmans mum.
If it turns out that Sarahs 1st marriage was not to someone called Joseph that we have the wrong people and I would need a cert to find Adas mum.

If however, Sarah married a Joseph Workman - in the right location, I would probably try to contact one of her decendents to confirm her indentify and to see that I have the right Ada as her daughter.

ps - Certs are so expensive - particulaly if you are in the early stages of identifying someone........

I really do appreciate everyones help here - this one does seem to have been a little more complex that I originally thought

Gill

The 1911 might well be wrong, but if that 1902 marriage is correct she was born before the marriage. I have seen loads of cases where the marriage was recorded incorrectly on 1911 census. Not saying it's them, just pointing out that it's not necessarily truthful!

Are you resisting the idea of getting that birth cert?

Jan

HI Folks

I too think we may be on the wrong tracks here-

MY Joseph Workman is definately the dentist in London ( born in Mold, Wales)

Ada Lily Workman is the person that I am looking to find the parents of ( I believe Joseph is the dad)..........

Ada's grandad was born in Dursley - he was a Weslyan Minister and Ada co-incidently married in Dursley .

I think that the Beckertons could be a red herring - in that Sarah Ann may have been a 'Workman ' with a child - Honor - before their marriage - but, Ada Lily is clearly a Beckerton as she was born after their marriage.

Any one have any other ideas?

Well, I go back to the original idea of getting her birth cert. I agree Choccy, we could be going completley wrong here. It's just to difficult to sort out otherwise.
Jan

1891 -


are we on wrong track here - Joseph is father (not a dentist!) -


WORKMAN, Joseph Head Married M 31 1860 Agricultural Laborer
Charfield
Gloucestershire VIEW
WORKMAN, Sarah Wife Married F 30 1861
Kingswood
Gloucestershire VIEW
WORKMAN, Gilbert Son M 2 1889
Charfield
Gloucestershire VIEW
WORKMAN, Annie Daughter F 0 (5M) 1891
Charfield
Gloucestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2000 Folio:
53 Page:
8

Registration District:
Thornbury Sub District:
Berkeley Berkeley Enumeration District:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Charfield

Civil Parish:
Charfield Municipal Borough:
Address:
The Hill, Charfield, Breadstone County:
Gloucestershire

lots of children -


1901

WORKMAN, Annie Pauper Inmate F 11 1890
Charfield
Gloucestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2412 Folio:
143 Page:
4

Registration District:
Thornbury Sub District:
Thornbury Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Thornbury

Civil Parish:
Thornbury Municipal Borough:
Address:
Thornbury County:
Gloucestershire


WORKMAN, Gilbert Pauper Inmate M 13 1888
Charfield
Gloucestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2412 Folio:
143 Page:
4

Registration District:
Thornbury Sub District:
Thornbury Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Thornbury

Civil Parish:
Thornbury Municipal Borough:
Address:
Thornbury County:
Gloucestershire


WORKMAN, John Pauper Inmate M 6 1895
Charfield
Gloucestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2412 Folio:
143 Page:
4

Registration District:
Thornbury Sub District:
Thornbury Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Thornbury

Civil Parish:
Thornbury Municipal Borough:
Address:
Thornbury County:
Gloucestershire


WORKMAN, Lucy Pauper Inmate F 9 1892
Charfield
Gloucestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2412 Folio:
143 Page:
4

Registration District:
Thornbury Sub District:
Thornbury Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Thornbury

Civil Parish:
Thornbury Municipal Borough:
Address:
Thornbury County:
Gloucestershire

EDIT snap Choccy!

Actually, I thought this might be Honor:

1901 England Census

Name: Honor Workman
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: Pauper Inmate (Pauper)
Gender: Female
Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Thornbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Thornbury
Town: Thornbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire

Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Thornbury
ED, institution, or vessel: The Workhouse

1901

WORKMAN, Honor Pauper Inmate F 8 1893
Charfield
Gloucestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2412 Folio:
143 Page:
4

Registration District:
Thornbury Sub District:
Thornbury Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Thornbury

Civil Parish:
Thornbury Municipal Borough:
Address:
Thornbury County:
Gloucestershire



Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
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Workman Honor Thornbury 6a 230

You could have a search here:

www.freebmd.org.uk

This is just a slog so as well to do it yourself! As mentioned before, the most obvious thing is to get Ada'a birth cert. I suspect she is illegitimate but might be wrong.

Jan

possibly not solved -


no sign of Honor or Ada -


1901

BECKERTON, William Head Married M 34 1867 Cowman On Farm
Wotton Under Edge
Gloucestershire VIEW
BECKERTON, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 34 1867
Wotton Under Edge
Gloucestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2409 Folio:
20 Page:
1

Registration District:
Chipping Sodbury Sub District:
Hawkesbury Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Henelm

Civil Parish:
Alderley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Grindstone Cottage, Alderley County:
Gloucestershire

Choccy

You beat me too it.....thank you.

So.. Sarah Ann Workman - is there a marriage of a Miss Sarah Ann ?
to a Mr ? Workman somewhere ??

Looking at the 'childrens' ages - I would guess a marriage around 1893??
as Honor was 17 in 1911