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Louise

Louise Report 11 Sep 2010 16:18

i am trying to find a james cox born in surrey in abt 1870 moved to greenock scotland had 5 or 6 children mary marjorie; percy ; leah ; harrold (died in infancy) morven the yongest emmegrated to canda

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Sep 2010 16:33

When did he go to Scotland and what is his wifes name and when and where did he marry her and when and where was she born?
Years and place of birth for the children?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 11 Sep 2010 16:34

When did he move to Scotland?

When and where did he get married ?

Really not sure what info you are after

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Sep 2010 16:35

Name: Morven Cox
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1926
Age: 33
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 20 Nov 1959
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
[Quebec]
[Le Havre]
Ship Name: Carinthia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Carinthia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: The Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 1963/01


Which makes James Cox 56 when Morven was born?

Astra

Astra Report 11 Sep 2010 16:37

Is this Morven. Listed as a Master Mariner.

Morven Cox
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1926
Age: 33
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 20 Nov 1959
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
[Quebec]
[Le Havre]
Ship Name: Carinthia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Carinthia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: The Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 1963/01


Far too many by the name of James Cox in Surrey to know which is him without more information.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Sep 2010 16:42

1 1926 COX MORVEN M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0566 No Image
2 1908 COX PERCY MORVEN M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0915

From here
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

£6 for 30 credits.
Pay per view only and if view is not available you need to order the cert through them for £10 and it takes about 2 weeks to arrive.


Which ever one is really him will give you his parents names to be able to find their marriage cert to get details to go further back.

Louise

Louise Report 13 Sep 2010 19:32

i dont know when he moved to scotland or where or when he married his wife agnes meeks. Harrold was born 1908 i think morven born 1926 marjory was born 1911 they were all born in greenock there was 6 of them i forgot syril

Louise

Louise Report 13 Sep 2010 19:34

thanks for the above its looks like no 1 is him thats for your help Fannybygaslight you have ben realy helpful as i had so little info.

Louise

Louise Report 28 Sep 2010 23:36

thanks to fannybygaslight i couldnt see morven's birth cert but used the search engine to find both morvens mums parents and james parents which helps me go back further

Louise

Louise Report 20 Feb 2011 13:59

james roger cox moved to scotland when he was about 5 ish the lived im kilmamolm
he was born in surrey somwhere in about 1885

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Feb 2011 15:07

Try FreeBMD for his birth.
His mariage cert should name his parents so you can cross check

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2011 15:47

Have you found his marriage on Scotlands people for his parents names?
His marrige date and place will be on Morvens birth cert.
Or do you have his birth cert for his parents names?
Without his parents names and fathers occupation it is almost impossible to find him on Scottish census as there are a few..!

There are no James Roger Cox births n Freebmd between 1865 and 1890...Where did the Roger bit come from?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2011 16:12

James Cyril Cox was born on 11th Nov 1909 to Agnes Meek and James Roger Cox..(Occupation..Joiner)
At Ingleston Street Greenock

His parents married on June 13th 1908 at Blythswood Glasgow ...

So you will need their marriage cert from Scotlands People for their parents details to be able to go back with certainty

1908 COX JAMES R MEEK AGNES BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/10 0657

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2011 16:21

1901....

Name: James Cox
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Percy Cox
Mother's Name: Margaret Cox
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilmalcolm, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 569
Registration district: Kilmalcolm
Civil parish: Kilmalcolm
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Glenmill Farm
Occupation: Apprentice Joiner
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1901_200
Household Members:
Name Age
Percy Cox 57
Margaret Cox 53
James Cox 17

.................................................

Name: Percy Cox
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Cox
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 569
Registration district: Kilmalcolm
Civil parish: Kilmalcolm
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Glenmill Farm
Occupation: Wood Forester

.............................................................................

Name: Margaret Cox
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Percy Cox
Gender: Female
Where born: Iona, Argyllshire
Registration Number: 569
Registration district: Kilmalcolm
Civil parish: Kilmalcolm
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Glenmill Farm

Margaret Cox ..Nee Roger..

The names given on his marriage cert to Agnes Meek....

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2011 17:22

1891

Name: James Cox
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Pearcy Cox
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilmalcolm, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 569
Registration district: Kilmalcolm
Civil parish: Kilmalcolm
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 4 Market St Grays Land
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 85
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1891_185
Household Members:
Name Age
Pearcy Cox 48.........Forester.....born Ireland
Robt Cox 18
Mary Cox 11
James Cox 8

Dunno where mother Mary/Margaret is...!


1883 COX JAMES M KILMACOLM /RENFREW 569/00 0018

So not born in Surrey at all then???


Marriage from www.familysearch.org

groom's name: Pierce Cox
bride's name: Mary Rogers
marriage date: 14 Apr 1871
marriage place: Blythswood,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland

Its also on Scotlands people under the same names if you want to look at the whole thing..

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2011 17:50

1881 Scotland Census about Pierce Cox
Name: Pierce Cox
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Cox
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 569
Registration district: Kilmalcolm
Civil parish: Kilmalcolm
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Townhead Land
Occupation: Wood Cutter
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 67
Line: 1
Roll: cssct1881_169
Household Members:
Name Age
Pierce Cox 38
Mary Cox 34
Robert Cox 9
Mary Cox 7
Leah Cox 4
Mary Cox 74......Born Ireland
William Dohherty 25>>>.Boarders...Both born Ireland
John Dohherty 90

Louise

Louise Report 10 Apr 2011 19:13

thanks to all for this info what a lot of info for me to add now i have to try and sort out james's mum. Fannybygaslight you have helped hugely as i know from my aunt that her granpa james cox lived on a farm

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 10 Apr 2011 22:04

You are welcome welcome...
But if you need more help with this family please do ask on here as the info needed to maybe able to help is already here so will not need to be searched over again..
Good luck
Fan

Louise

Louise Report 11 Apr 2011 20:09

does anyone know what happened to leah cox aged 4 on the 1881 scottish census bit is missing from 1891 and 1901 census and who is mary cox 74 on the 1881 census from ireland?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Apr 2011 23:17

I would imagine that Mary Cox age 74 is Percys mother..?

But his marriage cert would tell you that for sure as it will have his mothers name and maiden name on it...

Marriage from www.familysearch.org

groom's name: Pierce Cox
bride's name: Mary Rogers
marriage date: 14 Apr 1871
marriage place: Blythswood,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland

Its also on Scotlands people under the same names if you want to look at the whole thing..

And you need to search for a death for Leah on SP as well to see when she died.
There is one match for that name in deaths between 1881 and 1891 in Renfrewshire on SP...So would assume its her...
And after narrowing down the years it would seem she died in 1881,so after the census was taken.

But you need credits to view...£7 for 30 credits...
1 credit to get the ref up and 5 credits to view the cert....Java script needed to view...