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would someone be so kind to provide details of

John Littlejohns born 1921, leaving from Liverpool to Canada in 1925.

he may be a possibility as an ancestor of mine.

I have access to ancestry.co.uk (premium) so will happily help with a search on there in return if needed.

thank you in advance.

Siobhan

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: John LITTLEJOHNS
Date of departure: 18 December 1925
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Saint John NB
Destination country: Canada

Date of Birth: 1921 (calculated from age)
Age: 4
Marital Status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Child
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 18

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Betty LITTLEJOHNS (aged 42)


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Ship: MONTROSE
Official Number: 145919
Master's name: Capt Landy
Steamship Line: Canadian Pacific
Where bound: Saint John NB, Canada
Square feet: 15848
Registered tonnage: 16401
Passengers on voyage: 390


UK address - 6 Askin Grove, Wimbledon Park, London

travelling with Charles Vye of the same address (aged 66)




If you have Ancestry, there is more information as to husband and aunt on Canadian Passenger lists

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: John Littlejohns
Gender: Male
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1921
Birth Country: English.
Date of Arrival: 27 Dec 1925
Vessel: Montrose
Search Ship Database: View the 'Montrose' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14847



Source Information:

Ancestry.com. Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010.

that is interesting, thank you very much.

His mother's maiden name was Vye, her full name Mary Elizabeth Vye, maybe in short Betty Vye, wonder who Charles was in relation to her??

and wonder where the husband Frederick Littlejohns is, father of said John.

I only have access to UK ancestry, so don't think I can view the Canadian passenger lists on there.

Fare paid by husband - Mr. Frederick A. Littlejohns, Eastern Steamship Company, Port Colborne (Ontario)

Nearest relative in England - Aunt - Miss Hensby, 1 Clifton Place, Sussex Square, London, W2

If you PM me your e-mail address I can forward both the Ancestry and FMP images

ahhh so the husband Fred paid for the fare. Does that mean he went out before them?

Fred is the nephew of my great great grandfather.

I will pm you. Thank you for all your help.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Charles Vye
Gender: Male
Age: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 27 Dec 1925
Vessel: Montrose
Search Ship Database: View the 'Montrose' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14847



Source Information:

Ancestry.com. Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010.

Place of birth - Middleton

Father of Betty Littlejohns.
Miss Lily Hensby is his sister-in-law

ahhh so Charles Vye is her father. Does it look like they were going there to stay or just visiting do you think?

I can't find them returning to the UK and I can't find what happened to husband Fred.

Images sent. Looks as though they were going to stay.

thank you ever so much for your help.

So I need to try and trace where they ended up, it looks like Fred was in Ontario??? so perhaps they were headed there.

There's this marriage of Delbert Charles Vye in Ontario. Original says he was born Chatham, New Brunswick, parents were Fredrick Vye & Audrey Palmer. He was 27. I can't see the date of marriage anywhere!

Name: Delbert Charles Vye
Spouse: Evelyn Ann Gillespie
Event Year: 1962-1966
Event: Mariage (Marriage)
Religion: Catholique
Place of Worship or Institution: Wawa
Province: Ontario

Hi Margarent, thank you for that.

that could be a relative of some sort.

Althought I expect the names to be Littlejohns for descendants, as I would imagine Mary (Betty's) father would of been too old to remarry and have more children.

Still stuck on this, I can’t find the family once they enter into Canada.

Frederick A Littlejohns
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Frederick A Littlejohns
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1920
Registration district: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Spouse: Mary E E Vye
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 813

So Frederick must have gone to Canada between 1920 and 1925.

Don't see him on Canadian or UK passenger lists on Ancestry, but this looks like the family in 1957:

Frederick Littlejohns
in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: Frederick Littlejohns
Occupation: Iron Works
Year: 1957
Location: Welland, Ontario, Canada
Electoral District: Welland

At same address:
Mary E
John (National H Board)

Death of Charles- informant was Mrs F Littlejohns (daughter):

Charles Vye
Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947
Name Charles Vye
Event Type Death
Event Date 15 Dec 1931
Event Place Port Colborne, Welland, Ontario, Canada
Gender Male
Age 73
Birth Date 01 Jun 1858
Birthplace England
Father's Name Thomas Vye
Mother's Name Sarah Downes

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTP9-39F

Thanks Argyllgran and AustinQ

I have managed to find the death notice of John by googling names and Port Colborne.

I guess as the time is less than 100 years, records online are unlikely to be available.

I now live in Ontario also, so it’s interesting to see other ancestors who made the move across.

I will see if anyone has John in their tree on here.

Again thank you for your help.