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OYB

I think that you may be able to eliminate from your enquiries the James Boatwright born 8 May 1826 and christened at Old Church, St Pancras on 6 August 1826.

His baptism record shows that his parents were William and Mary, and William’s occupation is given as Coachman.

James is shown aged 10 (i.e. within the confines of the rounding down process) in the 1841 Census living with Mary Boatrite 50, Henry 25 and Sophia 15. (This is the record to which you referred in one of your postings)

These seem to be James in 1851 and 1861:

1851
HO107 Piece:1493 Folio:214 Page:33
39, Henry Street, Saint Pancras, Saint Marylebone
BONTWRIGHT, James Head Married 24 Cabman born St Pancras
BONTWRIGHT, Ellen Wife Married 27 Ireland
BONTWRIGHT, James Son 2 St Pancras
BONTWRIGHT, John Son 1 St Pancras

1861
RG09 Piece:97 Folio:101 Page:15
6, Fitzroy Place, Pancras
BOATRIGHT, James Head Married 34 Bricklayers Labourer born St Pancras
BOATRIGHT, Ellen Wife Married 37 Ireland
BOATRIGHT, James Son 13 St Pancras
BOATRIGHT, John Son 10 St Pancras
BOATRIGHT, Charles Son 8 St Pancras
BOATRIGHT, Ellen Daughter 6 St Pancras
BOATRIGHT, Mary Daughter 5 St Pancras
BOATRIGHT, Sophia Daughter 2 St Pancras

Ivan

I have bee trying to get my head around all the locations identified, although a number of them have disappeared from modern London, bombing and redevelopment, I guess.

I have just been looking at Stanford's 1862 map of London on the internet, specifically Clerkenwell, which shows the locations clearly

I am ging to print off the pages and have a go at mapping all the locations for these boatright families and see what, if anything this produces.

Too late to do it tonight though, I'll start tomorrow although it might have to be a job for the weekend

OYB

Further to my last posting there is a possibility that George and Harriet Boatright emigrated to Australia.

Peter Boatright son of a George and Harriet Boatright was born on 5 October 1854 and baptized at St Thomas, Charterhouse, Islington, Middlesex on 12 November 1854. Father’s occupation difficult to read but looks like Furrier.

On 14 April 1855 the following family arrived at Sydney, New South Wales aboard the ship “Washington Irving”:

George Boatright age 29 (i.e. born c 1826) occupation not clear but could be Clothier
Harriet Boatright age 26 (i.e. born c1829)
Peter Boatright age 1 (i.e. born c1854)

Regards

Ivan

OYB

Thank you for the information from Ann Maria’s death certificate.

A. S. Worth could be Augusta Susannah Worth (nee Cattell) but there is no obvious connection to the Boatrights (except that she lived in the parish of St James, Clerkenwell). Perhaps Ann Maria lodged with the Worths? It could be significant that none of the Boatright siblings was Informant for the death.


This is the record for the marriage of William Boatright and Louisa Wheatright, brief details of which I provided before.

“Marriages solemnisezed in the Parish of SAINT JAMES, WESTMINSTER in the County of Middlesex, in the Year 1819

William Boatright of this Parish and Louisa Wheatright of this Parish were married in this Church by Banns … this Eighth Day of April in the Year One Thousand Eight Hundred and Nineteen, By Me, Edward Smedley Clerk in Orders.
This Marriage was solemnized between us William Boatright … Louisa Wheatright In the Presence of S. J. Wilkins … Sarah Williams
No. 98”

However the name “Wheatright” seemed odd and I checked the record again and note that it seems to be a Bishops Transcript rather than the original Parish Record.

I believe that the entry in the original Parish Register may have been mistranscribed when the Bishops Transcripts were prepared because there are no “Wheatrights” (or similar) on the IGI (other than the referred to marriage of Louisa) nor on any of the Ancestry Censuses.

I suppose that it could be that Louisa’s surname began with “Wheat….” but even this is by no means certain.

Just to complicate matters George Carvalho Boatright married Harriet WHEATCROFT on 25 December 1850 at Aldingbourn, Sussex.

George and Harriet had a son Samuel George born 1851 died 1853 but after that, so far, I can’t find them.

Regards

Ivan

Ann Maria Boatright - Death Certificate Information:

Date of Death - 26th February 1864
Place of Death - 5 Brewer Street Clerkenwell
Age - 63
Occupation - widow of William Boatright - engraver
Cause of Death - bronchitis
informant - A S Worth of 5 Brewer Street Clerkenwell
Death Registered - 5th March 1864

regards

OYB

With reference to Ann Maria’s death certificate (1864), please advise the address where she died and who the informant was.

Regards

Ivan

I have been unable to find any direct links in relation to the information found by Ivan.

I have gound an entry on the Probate Calendar in 1875 for Henry William Boatright. A short time before his death he is living in St James Walk Clerkenwell, a couple of streets away from where James Boatright c1822 was living and where James' father William had lived. If there isn't a family link somewhere it's a heck of a coincidence that he moves all the way from Liverpool to end up a few hundred yards away.

I have sent for the death certificate of the William Boatright who died in Clerkenwell in March Quarter 1858. I will post whatever infromation this shows.

Re-posting of data submitted to this thread on 18 September 2010 (deleted in error).

I haven’t been able to find Ann Maria but the following could be worth investigating further.

On 30 June 1850 a Henry William Boatright, a Bachelor of full age residing at Clerkenwell, married Eliza Aldington at St Botolph Aldersgate.

Henry’s father is shown as William Henry Boatright who was an Engraver. One of the witnesses was George Carvalho Boatright.

Per the IGI a George Ceavelho Boatright was christened on 25 Sep 1826 at Saint Peter, Liverpool. His parents were William and Louisa Boatright.

Again per the IGI, the other possible children of William and Louisa were:

William Boatright
Christening 27 Jan 1820 Lying In Hospital, Endell Street, Holborn, London

James Boatright
Christening: 8 April 1824 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire

Henry William Boatright
Christening: 8 April 1824 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire

John Boatright
Christening: 3 June 1829 Lying In Hospital, Endell Street, Holborn, London

On the IGI there is a possible marriage for a William Boatright and a Louisa Wheatright on 8 April 1819 at Saint James, Westminster, London.


Ivan

Perhaps you should be looking primarily for Louisa rather than Ann Maria who could have been William’s second wife.

Apologies for not responding, bit of an emergency. We're on springwater here and our pumping system has packed in.

Thanks for the information and I will follow this up

Louisa Boatright, born about 1800, Isleworth, is alive and well in 1861 and 1871, not yet found her on 1851 or 1841.

Added:
She is Bratwright in 1841(on ancestry), and widowed.

sorry
Had to go out as well. This is my problem, there doesn't seem to be any likeley candidates on the 1841 census.

I have found a possible candidate for William Boatright on IGI. Birth /christening extract 1798, birth April, christening May, Hammersmith London. Parents also William and Mary.
There are also five other children between 1796 and 1808 with what look like the same parents.

I had to go out!!

Funny thing is when you do the IGI for James Boatright 1829 it is an extracted birth but you can't get up any more Boatrights to the same parents only James.

I have looked on London births and baps and the london marriage index for William and Mary/Maria but nothing.

I also looked on other peoples trees and there is nothing there either.

HI everyone

Ginny
I have a James Boatright on the 1841 census who looks a likely candidate but I'm not certain, location London St Andrew Undershaft, age 20, apprentice smith to a William Tripp.

Jonesey
I also have the James you have, I think it possibly is him.
I have William and Ann Maria on'findmypast' on the 1851 census. Hes is 52, engraver, born Hammersmith Middlesex. She is 50 born Holloway.

Mel
I wondered about this but i can't find any records for William's marriage to a Mary or Ann Maria

I have found a Mary Boatrite on the 1841 census age 50 in Marylebone St Pancras. Three Children Henry 25, Sophia, 15 James 10 so even allowing for rounding up and down of ages he looks wway too young so I assumed it's a different family.
There is an IGI birth/christening extract for James Boatwright 1826 who I believe to be from this family, parents William and Mary. It is this date, and the IGI extract for James Boatright, christening 1800, parents William and Mary that makes me believe Mary Boatrite is the wrong family.

I think there are two families with parents William and Mary.

Perhaps Wiliam married again.

WILLIAM THOMAS BOATWRIGHT Pedigree
Male Family


Marriages:
Spouse: MARY DREDGE Family
Marriage: 28 JUL 1842 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

OYB
No need to apologise for putting up "too much information"

I see that without altering anything, the replies have come in.

Sometimes it's simply a matter of time of day whether you get a response.

No joy as yet in locating an Ann Maria or Mary Boatright on the 1841 or 1851 census records. James's birthplace seems to vary throughout the census records so locating him in 1841 is also difficult.

This could be him in 1841 but unfortunately if it is then no mother present:

1841:

Name: James Boatwright
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Civil parish: St Andrew Undershaft With St Mary Axe
Hundred: London Within the Walls
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: London
Sub-registration district: London North East
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Boatwright 20
Mary Webb 15
Eliza Bromley 30
Ann Davis 55

Have you got James on the 1841 census?

Yes
I have James on the 1851.

I just wish I could find William's wife on the 1841 census.

I am assuming that the Mary referred to on James' marriage details is his mother, and the same person as the Ann Maria with William on the 1851 census , but they may not be I suppose.

OYB,

I for one would not be critical of the amount of information that you included in your initial post.

The only comment that I would make is that line spacing between the various elements that your research has so far revealed might have made it a little bit easier to read and digest.

As you rightly say, including information about what you already know prevents wasted effort by others.

Yep found that marriage for James and this looks like him on the 1851

1851 England Census
about Clara Beatringle
Name: Clara Beatringle
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James Beatringle
Gender: Female
Where born: Gerlostone, Essex, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Town: Hackney
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England


Occupation: ?? Finisher



Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
James Beatringle 30
Clara Beatringle 28
Clara Beatringle 3
James Beatringle 1
Charles Samuel 35


He's a brass finisher on the 1881 and the children fit. I was hoping he might have had his mother living with them!