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Is it possible for someone to look up the birth Reg for William Henry Rogers b c1833
Father Joseph Rogers - Bargebuilder
Mother Ann
Christened 10 May 1835 Saint Mary Lambeth London
Brother Alfred christened on the same day but don't know his age
Would be very much appreciated
Judith

Judith, William and Alfred Rogers were baptised on the same day. Address Vauxhall, occ of father barge builder

Name: William Henry Rogers
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 10 May 1835
Father's Name: Joseph Rogers
Mother's Name: Ann Rogers
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex

Name: Alfred Rogers
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 10 May 1835
Father's Name: Joseph Rogers
Mother's Name: Ann Rogers
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex


it doesn't give dob

Many thanks Rutland Belle, however I was hoping like mad to find out mother Ann's maiden name.
Have been looking for over a year but come up with the wrong one all the time.

theres no birth regs for 1833 they didnt start till 1837 so the baptism is the only record you will find

I would suggest getting the birth cert for one of their later children (born after 1837) - sometimes you have to go sideways to go backwards! Looking at the 1841 + 1851 censuses, there seems to be a few likely options.

RobG

Thanks Shirley, Rob.
Have tried for other children but haven't been successful.

??? When you say not successful, who/what have you tried that hasn't been successful.
There seems to be suitable entries in FreeBMD for their next couple of children.

Many thanks for that Rob. Have been through Family Search without luck, keep checking FreeCen but can't find anything in 1841 and I've actually just now got FreeBMD screen up as well to have a look but I worry that I have the wrong family.
I've got son William's Marriage and death Cert but it only showed his father's name.
Many thanks and will check that out now.

Ah! There lies the problem - FreeCen seems to have zero coverage for Surrey before 1871.
Do you have Ancestry or FMP?

What seems to be them has Joseph is shown on there, with Ann (down as Hannah - often shortened to Ann/Anna).
On 1841, Joseph (Barge Builder) 35 (rounded ages in 1841), with Hannah 30,
Maria 15,
Joseph 15,
John 10,
Alfred 5,
Elizabeth 5,
Sarah 1.
The same family are in 1851, but the ennumerator's writing is quite tough, so will take some deciphering.
By 1861 Hannah/Ann has died.

Ancestry London baptisms has (in addition to those mentioned previously:
Maria Sarah Rogers bt.1826
Joseph Edward bt.1827
John Stephen bt.1830
(Then the two mentioned in a previous post)
Elizabeth Hannah bt.Dec 1837
Sarah Ann bt.Jun 1840
Ann bt. Dec 1842 (was Sarah Ann, but Sarah crossed thru)
All (including other two) are at St.Mary's Lambeth
All show Joseph as Barge Builder
The use of Ann and Hannah is interchanged (possibly a different vicar)

The Elizabeth Hannah birth certainly seems to have an equivalent in FreeBMD, poss the one for Sarah too.
Should be enough to get you started.

Sorry Rob,
I'm on the other side of the world and by 4.40am I finally had to go to bed I was so tired.
But many many thanks indeed for your terrific help.
No I don't have Ancestry or FMP (??)
I had picked up the name Hannah but thought I was still on the wrong track so let it be for a long while but am all revved up again.
Judith

You may find this connects so file it

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 29
Month: November
Year: 1801
Forename: Joseph
Surname: Rogers
Fathers forenames: Edward
Fathers occupation: Bargebuilder
Mothers forenames: Maria
Address: Ratf
Location of church: Stepney
Parish: St Dunstan
Church address: Stepney High Street

Original Note : 30 Days Old

In fact I have a feeling it is your Joseph's baptism.
Edward and Maria are included in the names of Joseph's children.

1861 census - household transcription
Person: ROGERS, Joseph
Address: 2, South Lambeth Vauxhall Place, Lambeth
ROGERS, Joseph Head Widower M 58 1803 ...
Lambeth
ROGERS, Joseph Son Married M 31 1830 ...
Lambeth
ROGERS, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 15 1846
Lambeth
ROGERS, Edward Son Unmarried M 6 1855 ...
Lambeth
ROGERS, George Son Unmarried M 12 1849 Scholar
Lambeth

The image says Joseph is a barge builder.

1851 census - household transcription
Person: ROGERS, Josh
Address: 1, Bond Street, St Mary Lambeth, Lambeth
ROGERS, Josh Head Married M 49 1802 Barge Builder
Kent
ROGERS, Hannah F 43 1808
Kent
ROGERS, Maria Daughter Widow F 23 1828
Surrey
ROGERS, Joseph Son M 22 1829 Barge Builder
Surrey
ROGERS, John Son M 21 1830 Barge Builder
Surrey
ROGERS, Will Son M 18 1833
Kent
ROGERS, Alfred Son M 17 1834
Surrey
ROGERS, Elizabeth Daughter F 13 1838
Surrey
ROGERS, Sarah Daughter F 10 1841
Surrey
ROGERS, Ann Daughter F 8 1843
Surrey
ROGERS, Emanuel Son M 6 1845
Surrey
ROGERS, George Son M 1 1850
Surrey

1841 census - household transcription
Person: ROGERS, Joseph
Address: Bond Street Vauxhall, Lambeth, Kennington First
ROGERS, Joseph M 35 1806
ROGERS, Hannah F 30 1811
ROGERS, Maria F 15 1826 Surrey
ROGERS, Joseph M 15 1826 Surrey
ROGERS, John M 10 1831 Surrey
ROGERS, Alfred M 5 1836 Surrey V
ROGERS, Elizabeth F 5 1836 Surrey
ROGERS, Sarah F 1 1840 Surrey

Hullo LadyKira,
Sorry about the delay coming back to you, and I'm really amazed at what you and Rob managed to find for me and can't thank you enough.
Judith

This then is Josephs brother. I suspect the status for Jane is an e rror.


1861 census - household transcription
Person: ROGERS, John Stephen
Address: High Street, Erith
ROGERS, John Stephen Head Married M 30 1831 Barge Builder
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
ROGERS, Mary Ann Wife Married F 28 1833
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
ROGERS, Harry Banyon Son M 6 1855
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
ROGERS, Jane Banyon Sister In Law F 10 1851
Lambeth
Surrey

Marriages Jun 1854 (>99%)
Banyon Mary Ann Lambeth 1d 568
ROGERS John Stephen Lambeth 1d 568

I suspect Harry and Jane and Mary Ann's children either from an earlier marriage or out of wedlock.

This could be Mary Ann in 1851

1851 census - household transcription
Person: BANYON, Mary Ann
Address: 29, Maida Hill West, Paddington, St Marylebone
BANYON, Mary Ann Unmarried F 20 1831 Servant
Lambeth
Surrey
FRANCIS, Sarah Unmarried F 20 1831 Servant
Cromford
Middlesex

1871 census - household transcription
Person: ROGERS, John S
Address: The Square, Battersea
ROGERS, John S Head M 40 1831 Surrey VIEW
ROGERS, Mary A Wife F 38 1833 Surrey VIEW
ROGERS, Edmond B Son M 12 1859 Surrey VIEW
ROGERS, Ada L Daughter F 9 1862 Surrey VIEW
ROGERS, Thomas J Son M 6 1865 Surrey VIEW
ROGERS, Mary A Daughter F 3 1868 Surrey VIEW
BANGON, Alice A Visitor F 10 1861 Surrey

Image says barge builder