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Can Ayone help find a David Richards

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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Sep 2010 21:26

This marriage would be a good one.
I cant find a William Richards marrying a Janet Lewis

Marriages Mar 1912
Richards Davy Smith Aberystwith 11b 45
Smith Janet Richards Aberystwith 11b 45

1901

LEWIS, Janet Head Single F 32 1869 Subpost Mistress & Shopkeeper
Llanbadarnfawr
Cardiganshire
LEWIS, Richard W Brother Single M 19 1882 Postal Assistant
Llanbadarnfawr
Cardiganshire
WILLIAMS, Jane A Visitor Single F 20 1881
Borth
Cardiganshire

Registration District:
Aberystwith Sub District:
Rheidol Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Bangor St David

Civil Parish:
Melindwr Municipal Borough:
Address:
Post Office, Melindwr County:
Cardiganshire

And then she went to Yorkshire after marrying???


RICHARDS, Janet Passenger Daughter Married
3 years F 40 1871 Sub Postmistress Cardiganshire Capel Bayas

Registration District:
Sculcoates Sub District:
Drypool Enumeration District:
32 Parish:
Sculcoates

Address:
Alexandra Dock Hull County:
Yorkshire (East riding)

On the image she is on a ship(Dalrymple from Glasgow,Corn Trader) with William Richards ,and he is the Master of it and he is born 1872 Llanon Cards,and she is NOT down as daughter.

Married 3 yrs,no children.

Christine

Christine Report 30 Sep 2010 21:21

Thanks for all your help

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Sep 2010 21:19

One of the boys birth certs will give you their parents correct names.
William Or Evan Morgan I would get as David is a choice of three really.

But one of the marriages as well would be a good idea to cross Check.
Dodgy trying to do Welsh FH without certs,so easy to go wrong.

Christine

Christine Report 30 Sep 2010 21:15

Ah! thanks for finding these 3 boys for me, I think some of the details my aunt has told me are incorrect - well I think I should forgive her - she is 93yrs old.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Sep 2010 21:14

Well it IS cold in Aberayron as I well know,I went to school there!

patchem

patchem Report 30 Sep 2010 21:10

?
Evan M Richards
Death Registration Month/Year: 1921
Age at death (estimated): 47
Registration district: Aberayron
Inferred County: Cardiganshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 59

Christine

Christine Report 30 Sep 2010 21:09

Getta Richards remained single and was a naval S.R.N, Ena was also S.R.N but married (no details of husband) Jim married and had children (again no details)

patchem

patchem Report 30 Sep 2010 21:09

So David is not 1876, and not Aberystwyth, and not Margaret Jane.
Well done.
And I like the added touch of the Siberia address.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Sep 2010 21:00

All 3 boys
David,William and Evan M,all in the same district that Mary Richards Nee Edwards is.
Living next door to William Richards aged 40 who is a Master Mariner.

Margaret Jane..Jane?Husband at sea?

1891

RICHARDS, Jane Head Married F 35 1846
Llansantfread
Cardiganshire
Wales
RICHARDS, William Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Llansantfread
Cardiganshire
Wales
RICHARDS, Evan M Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Llansantfread
Cardiganshire
Wales
RICHARDS, David Son Single M 2 1879
Llansantfread
Cardiganshire
Wales
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
5443 Folio:
66 Page:
16

Registration District:
Aberayron Sub District:
Llansaintffraid Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Llansaintffraid Municipal Borough:
Address:
Siberia, Llansaintffraid County:
Cardiganshire


Births Dec 1873
Richards Evan Morgan Aberayron 11b 49

Births Sep 1871
Richards William Aberayron 11b 51

3 choices for David.

Births Mar 1878
Richards David Daniel Aberayron 11b 51
Births Jun 1879
Richards David Aberayron 11b 53
Births Sep 1880
RICHARDS David Lloyd Aberayron 11b 50

patchem

patchem Report 30 Sep 2010 20:35

I know Bangor is no good, it was the only Getta/Gitta I could find.
We have been given very few verifiable facts, so was wondering what was real and what had slipped a few generations.
But now 1911 census looks good, and the marriage will give Fathers' names, and age of groom, so progress?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Sep 2010 20:29

Patricia.
Bangor is a different place to Capel Bangor
One is in North Wales and the other in Cardiganshire West wales.

But a good possible for the marriage.

Transcript is wrong for the 1911,image says Ena is 2 yrs old


Births Dec 1908
Richards Ena Mary Aberayron 11b 32

Where they are living comes under Aberayron Reg district.

patchem

patchem Report 30 Sep 2010 20:18

??
Marriages Sep 1904
xxx Edwards Mary Islington 1b 465
Griffith Louisa Nellie Islington 1b 465
Renwick William Frederick Islington 1b 465
xxx Richards Evan Morgan Islington 1b 465

patchem

patchem Report 30 Sep 2010 20:15

Only Getta born in Aberystwyth:
Births Jun 1907
ROWLANDS Getta Mary Aberystwith 11b 52
No Getta Richards anywhere in free bmd.

There is this census entry, but the dates do not make sense, as if Morgan is a brother of David he should be born a lot later than 1828., and not Bangor.
1871 Wales Census
Gitta Richards
Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Morgan Richards Mother's Name: Margaret Richards
Gender: Female Where born: Bangor Civil parish: Bangor
Ecclesiastical parish: Bangor Town: Bangor
County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales
Registration district: Bangor Sub-registration district: Bangor ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 100
Morgan Richards 43 Caernarfonshire
Margaret Richards 36
Peter Waldo Richards 13
Annis Richards 12
Ella Richards 10
Gitta Richards 8
Morgan Richards 4
Kittey Richards 3
Arthur Richards 2
Mime Richards 8 Months
W H Roberts 19
Jane Price 25
Ellen Owens 19
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5727; Folio: 31; Page: 21; GSU roll: 895818.

There are lots more Ena Richards, not Aberystwyth in free bmd, this one very vaguely possible in 1911 census, :
EDWARDS, Simon Head Married M 60 1851 Farmer Cardigan Llansantffread
EDWARDS, Jane Wife Married 39 years F 60 1851 Cardigan Llansantffread
JONES, Margrate Sister Single F 75 1836 Cardigan Llansantffread
EDWARDS, Simon Edwin Son Single M 25 1886 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cardigan Llansantffread
EDWARDS, Evan Morgan Son Single M 22 1889 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cardigan Llansantffread
RICHARDS, Mary Daughter Married 6 years 3 children, all aliveF 36 1875 Cardigan Llansantffread
RICHARDS, Evan David Edward Grandson M 4 1907 Cardigan Llansantffread
xxx RICHARDS, Ena Mary Granddaughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Cardigan Llansantffread
RICHARDS, Jane Margetta Granddaughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Cardigan Llansantffread
JONES, Margaret Mary Servant Single F 16 1895 General Servant Domestic Cardigan
GEORGE, William Servant Married M 26 1885 Worker On Farm Leamster Cardigan Llansantffread
GEORGE, Kate Servant Married 1 years F 22 1889 General Servant Domestic Cardigan Lalsarn

RG number: RG14 Piece: 33417 Reference: RG14PN33417 RG78PN1917 RD606 SD2 ED14 SN24
Registration District: Aberayron Sub District: Llansantffraid Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Llansantffraid Address: Alltgoch Llanon Aberystwyth County: Cardiganshire

Added: late snap, getting stuck wuth Getta
Added: Ena Mary is 2 on the original

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Sep 2010 20:13

I911
Morgans wife Mary at home with her parents???
Jane Margetta (Getta) and Ena at least are there with her plus another couple,but I am finding no marriage for her and him..

Ena and Getta are twins?

EDWARDS, Dimon Head Married M 60 1851 Farmer Cardigan Llansantffread
EDWARDS, Jane Wife Married
39 years F 60 1851 Cardigan Llansantffread
JONES, Margrate Sister Single F 75 1836 Cardigan Llansantffread
EDWARDS, Simon Edwin Son Single M 25 1886 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cardigan Llansantffread
EDWARDS, Evan Morgan Son Single M 22 1889 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cardigan Llansantffread
RICHARDS, Mary Daughter Married F 36 1875 Cardigan Llansantffread
RICHARDS, Evan David Edward Grandson M 4 1907 Cardigan Llansantffread
RICHARDS, Ena Mary Granddaughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Cardigan Llansantffread
RICHARDS, Jane Margetta Granddaughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Cardigan Llansantffread
JONES, Margaret Mary Servant Single F 16 1895 General Servant Domestic Cardigan
GEORGE, William Servant Married M 26 1885 Worker On Farm Leamster Cardigan Llansantffread
GEORGE, Kate Servant Married
1 years F 22 1889 General Servant Domestic Cardigan Lalsarn

Registration District:
Aberayron Sub District:
Llansantffraid Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Llansantffraid

Address:
Alltgoch Llanon Aberystwyth County:
Cardiganshire

Births Mar 1911
Richards Jane M Aberayron 11b 33

No Ena on the same page but a Thomas?

Richards Thomas E Aberayron 11b 33

Christine

Christine Report 30 Sep 2010 18:30

Parents names for Morgan David and William came from my aunt which stated that Margret Jane Davies (Margaret) married Evan Richards.
Other details she gave me were that Morgan married Mary ? and had 4 children Getta, Ena, Jim and another (no name) William married Janet Lewis who was a post mistress. But unfortunately no dates.

patchem

patchem Report 30 Sep 2010 18:03

Christine,
When do you think Morgan was born/died?
Thanks

Christine

Christine Report 30 Sep 2010 17:56

Info my aunt gave me - Jane/Janet was named Jane Smith but preferred the name Janet so that is the name she was known by and she was a school misstress.
The year of David/Davy Richards was calculated by me as I remember my dad telling me he was abt 14 when his dad died and his dad was early 50's.

Christine

Christine Report 30 Sep 2010 17:48

Thanks for info so far, my aunt (dads sister) has mentioned capel Bangor
is where she last saw an uncle before he died so that adds up and she also told me they had lived at Mount Pleasant.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 29 Sep 2010 23:54

I reckon Patricia.

We need some more feedback from Christine here as to their birth years and how 1876 was arrived at for David/Davey.Family bible maybe?.

That 1911 of Janet Smith just has to be Davy./Davids future wife..

Maybe she didnt like the name much or her hubby called her Jane..

patchem

patchem Report 29 Sep 2010 23:40

Found 2 Morgan Richards from Aberystwyth in 1911 (born 1864 and 1865) one a house painter and the other a clergyman. So he at sea also?