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re,. mary cowen death...thought I had her on the1911 census but it was 1891 when she was 34yrs( i was wrong again no wonder you cuddn't figure me sums you'll be sayin oh no not her again !!!! ) so yes you found her death that's why only her two children John and Isabella left next door at no 8 birket st thanks for that pet..didn't they die young in those days..and we think we have it hard ........So there is no connection with these to SIR JOSEPH COWEN MP maybe not arrhh...

Groom's Name: George Sutherland
Groom's Birth Date: 1847
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 23
Bride's Name: Isabella Allen
Bride's Birth Date: 1849
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 21
Marriage Date: 27 Nov 1870
Marriage Place: St. Andrew'S, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Groom's Father's Name: David Sutherland
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: George Allen
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01063-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1564920
Reference Number: p199 rn398
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Bonny Lass Here are the details relating to George and Isabella...
Married 27 Nov.1870 at St Andrews Church Ncle.
Georges father...David Sutherland
Isabella ..(nee Allen) father George Allen.

Eh..Bonny Lass...You have got me right bamboozled so you have...!!

Mary's death relates to Mary b.abt 1856 mother of Annie and wife of husband with the queer christian name....we havent found Mary's mother ..that I know of...
unless you have her Birth Cert and I have missed something...

The Sutherlands lived down (or up whichever way you walked) the Street at No 11Long Row from my "Family" at No 33....hows that for a small world...
Aye Crawley Road would be aboot reet....the families at the time moved around the place quite a bit..to say the least...yours seem to be in reasonable hooses...mine were on the river bank when they lay doon tha feet were in the watter and tha heeds in the hoose..poverty personified...!!

Aye St Lukes would fit as all their children were Baptised there..
Will see if I can find Isabella S.maiden named for you...likely be Allen

been doing me maths from tea time cos it was never my best subject but here goes ...I have mary's birth as1819 add 55 =1874 for death, if she was 55 ..even if it was the younger Mary her daughter born 1845 less 55 would be 1890 for her ..you said there were loads of cowens in Wallsend ..the way i work i'm lucky to get Births never mind deaths I may have another Mary hiding away somewhere ..sorry the answer to your question is I just don't know but thanks anyway keep cowens in mind there may be one next door to you .

hi Annie married Edward Sutherland at, looks like st Lukes church in parish of Wallsend on feb 27th 1897...writing not too clear but looks like 14 Crawly rd for Eds address and 5 Wanless st for Annie... ummmm

Hi, yes got them but not extra info addresses etc,.while I have you, you don't happen to know Isabella's maiden name do you thank you for helping me last night was a nightmare i was barking up the wrong tree with Mary but sorted nearly, ta ....

Just in case you dont have Edwards details..he was son of George and Isabella (Both from Berwick)..lived down Long Row Wallsend . He was born Wallsend but in Clyde St. (1876).

Bonny lass ...This is nee time for mekin the tea...is this Mary's death...?

Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%)
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COWAN Mary 55 Tynemouth 10b 118

Hi here's the 1911 census for John and his sister Isabella

Address: 8 Birket Street Wallsend Near Newcastle

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born


COWAN, John Head Single M 24 1887 Rivet Heater In Shipyard Northumberland (original says Walkergate)
COWAN, Isabella Sister Single F 18 1893 House Duties Walker Northumberland

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and the 1911 for Annie Sutherland nee Cowan

1911 census - household transcription
Person: SUTHERLAND, Annie
Address: 9 Birket St Wallsend Near Newcastle

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

SUTHERLAND, Edward Allen Head Married M 35 1876 Boiler Maker Shipyard Wallsend Northumberland
SUTHERLAND, Annie Wife Married 14 years F 29 1882 Windy Nook County Durham
SUTHERLAND, Polly Daughter F 8 1903 School Wallsend Northumberland
SUTHERLAND, Edward Allan Son M 5 1906 Wallsend Northumberland
SUTHERLAND, Alfred Son M 2 1909 Wallsend Northumberland

Eh...Bonny Lass it gets worse instead of better...!!
A bit of Wallsend geography...Wanless and Birkett St were next to one another..just off the Hedley St/ High St.
Never come across the either names (as written) where did Annie marry...( ?Church)....could it be Alex....?

Hi to all me canny bairns, just to keep you up to date I received marriage certificate for Annie Cowen and Edward Allan Sutherland this morning (heaven sent after last night )forgotten I'd ordered it ..so great I thought this will tell me Mary Cowen's husband yes well it does but couldn't decipher christian name it actually looks like Ashia or Aspin Cowen if such a name exists he was an engineer..will try to do some research later... thanks .....

Elaine, Howdon is just round the corner from Willington Quay - I often walk along there!

Keep us posted bonnie lass.

well it's like this...i have a Mary Cowen1856 howden if thats near willington quay ? as in Tempests find actually all her children were born in Walker ..but on 1891 census they lived at 5 wanless st wallsend sorry it was Annie who lived at 9 birket st .. I have the childrens spouses and even their children ,,,got as far as Mary and want so badly to know her husbands who died nameand date of death would be good and what her maiden name was but I think i am pushing it thank you for trying pet

Nae Hinny its grand to get in a pickle now and again thats why we're so easy going and nowt bothers us...but who the divil are we actually looking for...Plenty of Cowans in Wallsend but nen doon Birkett Street...

it's alreet hinny

(another novocastrian here, although exiled down south!)

we're here to help and learn

yes do you want an unused!! duff birth cert Eeeee your'e a geordie ....oh and I thought I was doing quite well with my new hobby think I did mess up big time and wasted your valuable time sorry gang xx

this is the right one we must now rule out the ruth and george and benwell my fault entirely sorry and so we know that she's a widow but still no husbands name or when he died I will get the twins birth cert to try to trace him he must ave been alive then to produce family umm ..

Eh..Hinny yer in a reet muddle here...!!

how about this one? 1901 number 5 Wanless Street, Wallsend

Mary is listed as a widow

1901 England Census
about Mary Cowan Name: Mary Cowan
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Willington Quay, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Wallsend
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Wallsend
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Cowan 44
John Cowan 14
Jane E Cowan 14
Isabella Cowan 8


futher info on household

Name: John Cowan
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary Cowan
Gender: Male
Where born: Walker, Northumberland, England

Name: Jane E Cowan
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Cowan
Gender: Female
Where born: Walker, Northumberland, England


Name: Isabella Cowan
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Cowan
Gender: Female
Where born: Walker, Northumberland, England