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George Miller born 1851at Low Lambton.
Occupation Railway Driver,Married Barbara.

Parents are either William (1818), occupation Wagonwright and Jane or
William (1818) occupation Glassmaker and Mary

What is the next step to take in order to identify the culprit !

Buy his marriage or birth certificate? That should give the necessary info, the marriage certificate will give his father's occupation.

George,

does his marriage certificate give his fathers occupation?


Dee x

Waves to Anne-Marie. xx

Waves back to Dee!

This is a possible for the marriage:

Marriages Dec 1873 (>99%)
Lennox Barbara Gateshead 10a 1295
Miller George Gateshead 10a 1295

There's a number of possible births, usually the case with a not so unusual name.

You could have a look on FreeBMD to see what looks likely. What else do you know about him? Have you found him on any census?

1881 England Census about George Miller
Name: George Miller
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Barbara Miller
Gender: Male
Where born: Low Lambton, Durham, England
Civil parish: Gateshead
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 50 Chichester St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Stoker
Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Miller 30
Barbara Miller 31
Jas. Wm. Miller 6
Geo. Miller 4

haven't found him after or before this Anne-Marie

Anne-Marie

Your info. is correct.
Will the marriage certificate circa1874 show the mothers name as well as Fathers Occupation?

1871 England Census about George Miller
Name: George Miller
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Miller
Mother's Name: Mary Miller
Gender: Male
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England
Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 227
Household Members:
Name Age
William Miller 53
Mary Miller 51
James Miller 23
George Miller 20
Charles Miller 12


father William and George are Glass makers

So I guess "Low Lambton" is in Durham?

I certainly would have no idea without a map and a search engine.

Where's that thread gone that asks people to at least give a *county*??


Marriage certificates give father's name only, not mother's, and father's occupation. If the party knew them, and reported them correctly.

1871 England Census about George Miller
Name: George Miller
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Miller
Mother's Name: Jane Miller
Gender: Male
Where born: Pensher, Durham, England
Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 401
Household Members:
Name Age
William Miller 53
Jane Miller 42
John Thos Miller 22
George Miller 20
William Miller 16
Sarah Miller 14
James Miller 10
Henry Miller 8
Thos Reed 72


George is a butcher and father William Wagonwright

I don't think either of these 1871 census Miller families are yours George. George born 1850 was a Stoker, a Glass maker and butcher were good occupations so why change to a stoker?


Dee x

Batmans Daughter.

Well done! Spot on

George also shows up on 1861,1871and 1881 census

George,

where is george on the 1861 and 1871 census? have you the family after 1881?

Dee x

Batmans Daughter

You are correct...he was a butchers apprentice at age 14.

Later he was a Stoker (Railway Fireman presumably), and later an Engine Driver

As William was a Wagonwright, could it be son following in Fathers footsteps with a Railway connection?

Ahh..

1891 England Census about George Miller
Name: George Miller
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Pensher, Durham, England
Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Miller 40.. railway engine driver, WIDOW
James W Miller 16 >> apprentice boilermaker
George Miller 14 >> apprentice butcher
Jane Hoy 18 >> servant


Dee x

Here he is in 1891, sadly Barbara has died:

MILLER, George Head Widower M 40 1851 Railway Engine Driver Durham Pensher
MILLER, James W Son Single M 16 1875 Boilermakers Apprentice Durham Durham City
MILLER, George Son Single M 14 1877 Butchers Apprenctice Gateshead Durham
HOY, Jane Servant Single F 18 1873 General Servant Domestic Gateshead
Durham

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
4178 Folio:
132 Page:
19

Registration District:
Gateshead Sub District:
Gateshead Enumeration District:
21 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Christ Church

Civil Parish:
Gateshead Municipal Borough:
Gateshead Address:
24, Claremont South Avenue, Gateshead County:
Durham

It;s looking like he was William the Wagon wrights son and now the birthplace tallies with the 2 census returns. 1871 and 1891.

If you do get the marriage cert in 1874 the witnesses maybe family members too.

Sorry!. Wrong Miller in 1861.
1871. page 72 address 27 melbourne street

Remarried;

1901 England Census about George Millar
Name: George Millar
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lucy Millar
Gender: Male
Where born: Low Lampton, Durham, England
Civil parish: Byker
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Byker
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members:
Name Age
George Millar 50 >> engine driver
Lucy Millar 36
Elizabeth Swan 67 >> mother (presumably In Law??)
Robert Parkinson 16 >> Nephew born Felling, Durham
Lucy Lyons 23 Cousin born Newcastle

Batmans Daughter

Thanks for that.It looks like the Marriage Cert. is the next best bet rather than the Birth Cert.

I appreciate the help and
will post the results at a later date