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again, nowt, diddly squat, dead ends!!!!!!! FBG where are you lol xxx

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Thank you kindly for your words of wisdom Tracey. I will take on board what you have said and take myself off to the British Library.....

Sadly, back then birth registration were not compulsary...so if they didn;t get round to one of them, you can be sure it's the one you want.

The only way to get answers is to go down to the British Library and find them!

This site will help explain more!

http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/IorIntro.aspx


Tracey x

Tracey.
I would think they were staitoned there, he was in the music section of his battalion.

Don't believe you! x You are the best!!!!! Give yorself a shiny, or failing that, go and have a cuppa....

I dont do papers Nicky,wouldnt know where to start.
Find long lost unknown half uncles births I might,but Army stuff and newspapers I am C#p at.

Tracey said if thy were stationed there as opposed to living there thy might be on the local government papers? Does that help Fanny?

That is strange. He was defo in the army in bengal peshawar? area, cos we believe my minnie amelia met her hubby over there, coz he was also an army man.

FBG maybe she went thro the change late hahahahahahahaha

I am certain that they must be the parents of Minnie. I read somewhere she was born 1880, dnt ask me where i got that from, can't remeber. Maybe she wasn't baptised? She was defo brn in Barllie? nor sure of spelling defo India, her daddy was in the army as prev stated. This is v exciting!

OK.
If everyone is certain sure that Michael John Carney and Jane Ann are Minnie Amelia Carneys parents even though her baptism has not been found ,then I will look for one of the other childrens birth records to send for so Jane Anns maiden name can be found out.
Big gap between 1864 and 1878 though,but of course fertility is starting to wane and miscarriages and stillborns may have happened.

Nope,not a one of them appear on FMP overseas births.

I have also checked ScotlandsPeople for service returns,again ,nothing.
Nor incoming passengers on Ancestry.

flipping hell, they opbviously had no telly hahahahahahahaha
thank you soo much tracey, this is really hilarious!!!

Just incase it hasn't been posted.... here is the 1911

1911 RG14PN10049 RG78PN529 RD194 SD2 ED4 SN362
Reg. District: Chelmsford Sub District: Chelmsford
Address: Church St Chelmsford County: Essex
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ROLFE, Arthur Head Married 13 years M 41 1870 General Labourer Stoffman Essex Chelmsford
ROLFE, Minnie Wife Married F 31 1880 Barllie India
ROLFE, Basil Son Single M 12 1899 School Essex Chelmsford
ROLFE, Oilford Son Single M 7 1904 School Essex Chelmsford
ROLFE, John Son Single M 6 1905 School Essex Chelmsford
ROLFE, Arthur Son Single M 1 1910 Home Essex Chelmsford



Tracey x

OK,

More children...

Name Clarence Herbert Stclair Carney
Gender Male
Baptism/Christening Date 16 Jul 1861
Baptism/Christening Place Meerut, Bengal, India
Birth Date 18 May 1861
Father's Name Michael John Carney
Mother's Name Jane Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C75018-4
System Origin India-EASy
Source Film Number 499004
Reference Number v 100-1 p 40

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Name Katherine Adelaide Carney
Gender Female
Baptism/Christening Date 15 Apr 1859
Baptism/Christening Place LANDOUR, BENGAL, INDIA
Birth Date 26 Feb 1859
Father's Name Michael John Carney
Mother's Name Jane Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C75017-7
System Origin India-EASy
Source Film Number 498998
Reference Number v 95 p 191

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Name Amelia Catherine Jane Carney
Gender Female
Baptism/Christening Date 18 May 1856
Baptism/Christening Place Peshawur, Bengal, India
Birth Date 29 Jan 1856
Father's Name Michael John Carney
Mother's Name Jane Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C75017-3
System Origin India-EASy
Source Film Number 498994
Reference Number V 89 p 333

Going on the list of children it looks like the family are having 1 child roughly every 3 years, which is about right...1854, 56, 59, 61, 64 and then your relative Minnie.

Tracey x

Well.

Just adding my 2 penneth worth in, could he have not been part of the military by the time Amelia was born and he had maybe taken up a residency position in local government?

I know ALOT of my Skinner lot went over to india early to late 1800's and none of their births are on the military indices, instead they are all on local records. I suppose it will be base on whether they were 'stationed' there or whether they were 'living' there!!

If your lot were actually living in India and taking part in local government the births will not be on the military paperwork.

We now know the mother's forenames are Jane Ann, and that she married Michael John Carney, we also, it appears, have at least 2 siblings to your relative, the earliest being born in 1854.

It takes time Nicky to find it all.... give us more time and we'll hopefully find you answers!


Tracey x

Fanny,#How weird? re birth ref!
I have got the hardest family ever to research. But as they say, some news is better than nowt!!!!!! xxxx
Thanx xxxxx

I am checking everything I can think of on FMP for Nicky Shirley..

No Michael Carney of that regiment on Chelsea Pensioners.

But Im not trawling for a marriage with nothing definite for dates as that is as bad as looking for Mr Jones..

Edits.
Rechecked for her birth ref on FMP ,but still nothing.

well my mum had children from 1930 to 1949 !!

Maybe they married in India. you should check the Miltary records on Find my Past.
www.FindMyPast.co.uk

It pay to view or subs but i dont subcribe to it so cant help .