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On the 1891 It has Joseph born London ( Catherine Ireland ) so if the date is correct this may be a possible birth for him

Joseph Stanton
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: West London
County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 262 (click to see others on page)

Name: Joseph Stanton
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1848
Baptism Date: 22 Apr 1848
Father's Name: Henry Stanton
Mother's Name: Mary Stanton
Parish or Poor Law Union: Charterhouse St Thomas
Borough: Islington

i really think that might be right i remmber my mother mentioning a Malteese connection but alway thought it was from my grandfathers side,

thank you so so much everyone for your help :)

Forget that marriage !
Eldest child Florence was born Ireland as was her mother and the next three were born in Malta

possible marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Duncan James Henry W. Derby 8b 771
Maddox Margaret W. Derby 8b 771
Owen Catherine W. Derby 8b 771 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Stanton Joseph W. Derby 8b 771 <<<<<<<<<<<<<

1901

Name: Joseph Stanton
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Kate Stanton
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Stanton 51
Kate Stanton 40
Florence Stanton 19
John Stanton 16
Kate Stanton 14
Anna Stanton 10
Mark Stanton 8
Fred Stanton 6

and death for the Louisa showing in 1891

Deaths Jun 1899 (>99%)
Stanton Louisa 8 Salford 8d 9

Bingo! What a stroke of luck. Her sister and husband took them in I am guessing. Seaham Lass's find I think:

1911

PHILLIPS, Edward Head Married M 25 1886 Labourer Platelayer Liverpool VIEW
PHILLIPS, Florence Wife Married F 28 1883 Laundress Laundry Dublin Ireland VIEW
PHILLIPS, Florence Daughter F 4 1907 Manchester VIEW
PHILLIPS, Alice Maud Daughter F 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Liverpool VIEW
STANTON, Frederick Brother Single M 16 1895 Labourer Rope Walk Manchester VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22657 Reference:
RG14PN22657 RG78PN1328 RD455 SD11 ED4 SN232

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Wavertree Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Wavertree

Address:
118 Wavertree Vale Wavertree County:
Lancashire

so that looks like a possible? what was his occupation? the one below was railway labourer

annies fathers names was Joseph Stanton 1860

possible

1891 England Census
about Florence Stanton
Name: Florence Stanton
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Stanton
Mother's Name: Catherine Stanton
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Stanton 43
Catherine Stanton 31
Joseph Stanton 13 (born Jersey?)
Rose Stanton 12 ( Aldershot? )
Florence Stanton 9
John Stanton 7
Kate Stanton 5
Anne Stanton 1
Louisa Stanton 2/12

yes annie and abraham were salford, not burnley. and there may poss be a connection for a florence as this name has been used in the family before during conversation, so maybe i am assuming the maybe florence could have been annies sister,

1901 census
How about the Florence Stanton age 20 Manchester and living Salford working as kitchen maid

Sorry cant see full details

There is a possible Stanton Phillips marriage

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
CHARLES Herbert Salford 8d 160
O'Hare Mary Salford 8d 160
PHILLIPS Edward Salford 8d 160
Stanton Florence Salford 8d 160

But I cannot see a corresponding census in 1911

Vanessa have you got the marriage cert for Abraham and Annie for her father's name?

I'm afraid that my geography is rubbish but there is a Florence and Edward Phillips in West Derby in the 1911 census.
Edward born 1886, Florence born 1883
I've no idea if this is a connection

sylvia i wish i knew, unfortunatly this is something that has recently come to light and all the elders of my family have passed away.
so unfortunatley other than the adopted names of evelyn phillips nee rosson and harry phillips nee rosson, this is all the information i have to work with, i know its a long shot,
thanks vanessa

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1906
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
STANTON Florence PHILLIPS Edward Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended Salford SAL/97/2

from lancashirebmd.org.uk

Abraham died in 1936, so that may mean that the children were formally adopted

Abraham's death?


Deaths Sep 1936 (>99%)

Rosson Abraham 47 Salford 8d 324




sylvia

there's a potential Stanton/ phillips marriage in Salford, if someone could check whether Florence married Phillips?

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)

CHARLES Herbert Salford 8d 160
O'Hare Mary Salford 8d 160
PHILLIPS Edward Salford 8d 160
Stanton Florence Salford 8d 160