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1881 census - Address: 40, Ct 2 House, New John St West, Birmingham
TURNPENNY, William Head Married M 70 1811 Gilt Jewellery Maker Birm Warwickshire
TURNPENNY, Sarah Wife Married F 70 1811 Birm Warwickshire
MC DERMOTT, Bright Boarder Single M 25 1856 Watch Movement Maker Birm
Warwickshire
MC DERMOTT, Jane Boarder Single F 23 1858 Warehouse Woman Birm
Warwickshire
GILBERT, William Lodger Widower M 32 1849 Steel Beam Forger Birm Warwickshire

1861 census - household transcription
Person: TURNPENNY, Sarah Ann
Address: Back Of 57, Clement Street, Birmingham
TURNPENNY, William Head Widower M 51 1810 Traveller
Warwick VIEW
TURNPENNY, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 24 1837 Employed At Home
Warwick VIEW
TURNPENNY, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 21 1840 Warehouse Girl
Warwick VIEW
TURNPENNY, Charles Son Unmarried M 15 1846 Traveller
Warwick VIEW
TURNPENNY, Sarah Ann Daughter Unmarried F 12 1849 Employed At Home
Warwick

hI TO ALL, THANKS FOR YOUR POSTINGS. i WILL GET BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS i HAVE TIME
tHANKS
kATHY

1871 census - household transcription
Person: TURNPENNY, Sarah A
Address: Back Of Barr Street, West, Birmingham
TURNPENNY, William Head M 60 1811 Warwickshire VIEW
TURNPENNY, Sarah Wife F 60 1811 Warwickshire VIEW
TURNPENNY, Sarah A Daughter F 21 1850 Warwickshire

Kathleen

So sorry to hear about your dog.



There is also this marriage in 1880, which seems much more likely!

Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%)

Bevan William Birmingham 6d 100
CLARK Charlotte Birmingham 6d 100
Hiatt Charles Coustrat Birmingham 6d 100
Hiatt Charles Gonstrat Birmingham 6d 100
Turnpenny Sarah Ann Birmingham 6d 100


unless they got married earlier, then repeated the marriage!



NO

There are TWO Sarah Ann Turnpenny's

Births Jun 1849 (>99%)

TURNPENNY Sarah Ann Birmingham 16 258


Births Dec 1860 (>99%)

TURNPENNY Sarah Ann Shrewsbury 6a 576


and it looks like they BOTH married a William Bevan!



I shall see if I can do more digging!





sylvia

UPDATE
Hi I have the certs that I sent for and I am a bit confused now.

The line goes like this.

Aurther James Bevan b NOV 1915, father William Henry, mother Jessie Bloomer Both born Birmingham county Warwick. So far we had it right.

The birth cert for his father William Henry Bevan b march 1881, states his father was William Bevan mother Sarah Ann Turnpenny.

I have found the marriage for them.

Marriages Mar 1875
Bevan William Birmingham 6d 5
Turnpenny Sarah Ann Birmingham 6d 5

Also the 1881 census

William BEVAN Head M Male 21 Birmg, Warwick, England Bricklayers Laborer
Sarah A. BEVAN Wife M Female 20 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
William H. BEVAN Son Male 2 w Birmg, Warwick, England

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Source Information:
Dwelling 1 Back Of 33 Barn St
Census Place Birmingham, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341714
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2990 / 20
Page Number 33


If you look at the ages it would mean that when they married they would have been 15 and 14? The fact they have a son William Henry age 2 weeks would fit. Also the address on the birth cert for the son has the same address as the 1881 census? Its all a bit odd.

Anyway, if anyone can find them in any other census i might be able to piece it together.

Any input would be welcome. On a sorrier subject my little dog died in my arms on monday she was only 8 but had a bad heart, i am heartbroken I am trying to keep busy and keep my mind occupied, so if I seem a bit confused please bare with me

Many thanks
Kathy

But the Henry born in Marstow is in the last 1881 census posted. here fore he is unlikely to be your Henry.

Hi, I have William Bevan born Birmingham 1880, his wife Jessie nee Bloomer in 1911 census, his mother Mary who was a widow was also living with them, she was said to be born Ashby de la Zouch Liecestershire. In 1901 William was living with his mother, she stated she was born in the same place, she was also a widow. I don’t have 1891 but in 1881 she was living with Henry her hubby and her son William, she still gave her birthplace as Ashby de Zouch Liecestershire. So I don’t think that the 1881 census you found was for the family. However I have found this birth that seems to fit- Henry Bevan 1838 Marstow Hereford Father Christopher Bevan, Mother Amelia Jenkins

I cant thank you enough for all your help, I an sure we will get there in the end
Kathy

This looks to be Henry born Marstow

1881 England Census
about Henry Bevan Name: Henry Bevan
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza Bevan
Gender: Male
Where born: Marstow, Hereford, England
Registration district: Ross
Sub-registration district: Ross
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Bevan 42
Eliza Bevan 43
Ellen Bevan 16
George Bevan 12
Emily Bevan 12
Ada Bevan 8
William Bevan 4
Arthur Bevan 2
Reginald Bevan 1

hi, yes I agree with you they both look unlikely, I will keep the 1961/71 on record for now. If you come across any that might fit please let me know. Thanks very much for your help
Kathy

This is the only result for mary 1891 but does not look right.

1891 census - household transcription
Person: BEVAN, Mary
Address: 89, Griffin, Belgrave Gate, Leicester
BEVAN, Samuel Head Married M 48 1843 Licensed Victualler
Leicester
Leicestershire VIEW
BEVAN, Mary Wife Married F 53 1838
Leicestershire VIEW
BEVAN, Albert C Son Single M 15 1876 Butcher
Leicester
Leicestershire VIEW
ILIFFE, Agnes Lodger Single F 19 1872 Boot Flowerer
Leicester
Leicestershire VIEW
CHRISTIAN, Fanny Servant Single F 19 1872 General Servant Domestic
?
Lincolnshire

I cannot see 1891 that makes sense as yet. 1871 with Mary born Brecknock shire does not feel right. It is a long way from Leicestershire but is only Henry born Herefordshire in that time frame.

This one was born Warwickshire

1871 census - household transcription
Person: BEVAN, Henry
Address: Oughton Place, Aston, Birmingham
PURSER, Sarah Head F 49 1822 Warwickshire VIEW
PURSER, Sarah Ann Daughter F 17 1854 Warwickshire VIEW
PURSER, Hannah M Daughter F 13 1858 Warwickshire VIEW
BEVAN, Henry Boarder M 36 1835 Warwickshire

Hi LadyKira, yes you have the right 1911/1901 census. Can you find them in 1891. Thanks for your time
Kathy

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1901 census - household transcription
Person: BEVAN, Mary
Address: 5, 48, Back Garrison Lane, Aston
BEVAN, Mary Head Widow F 62 1839
Ashby de la Z
Leicestershire VIEW
BEVAN, William Son Single M 21 1880 Carpenter
Birm
Warwickshire

ah this is the one

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BEVAN, Mary
Address: 2 Court 2 Hope Street Birmingham
BEVAN, William Head Married M 31 1880 Carpenter Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
BEVAN, Jessie Wife Married
4 years F 27 1884 Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
BEVAN, William Son M 3 1908 Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
BEVAN, Mary Mother Widow F 73 1838 Ashby de la Zouch Leicestershire

You say you have them 1911. Please could you post that as I am not seeing anything obvious.

I am not convinced that the census details match up to all the criteria.. They were suggestions