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Thomas Birch was born c1860- the 1901 census he states that he does not know where he was born but that he was baptized in Stourbridge. Any help in finding his baptism & parents names would be greatly appreciated.
Maureen

Maureen, this is intriguing...

As a starting point I'd like to see the 1901 census but can't seem to find the entry you refer to. Where was he in 1901, and who was he with? Thanks.

Hi,
He is listed as S Birch (a transcription error) in Nottingham with his wife Emily.
Thanks Maureen

for info

1901 England Census
about S Birch Name: S Birch
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily Birch
Gender: Male
Where born: N

Civil parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Lenton Holy Trinity
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19a
Household Members: Name Age
S Birch 40
Emily Birch 39
Amy Harriett Baldwin 16
Rebecca Baldwin 14
Ada Baldwin 12
George Edward Birch 6
Beatrice May Birch 4
Mary Ellen Birch 2
John William Birch 6 Months

1901 census transcription details for: 5, Tanners Yard, Nottingham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3164 Folio: 53 Page: 4

Reg. District: Nottingham Sub District: Nottingham South West
Parish: Nottingham Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: Holy Trinity Lenton City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, Tanners Yard, Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
BIRCH, T Head Married M 40 1861 Skinner For Window Leather
N K Unknown But Christened At Stourbridge He Had Born Travelling with Sangers Circus
BIRCH, Emily Wife Married F 39 1862
Oxford
BALDWIN, Amy Harriett Daughter Single F 16 1885 Laundry Ironer
LentonNottinghamshire
BALDWIN, Rebecca Daughter Single F 14 1887
LentonNottinghamshire
BALDWIN, Ada Daughter Single F 12 1889
LentonNottinghamshire
BIRCH, George Edward Son Single M 6 1895
LentonNottinghamshire
BIRCH, Beatrice May Daughter Single F 4 1897
LentonNottinghamshire
BIRCH, Mary Ellen Daughter Single F 2 1899
LentonNottinghamshire
BIRCH, John William Son Single M 0 (6 MOS) 1901
LentonNottinghamshire

Ah - found it! (OK later than the others, but I got there).

BIRCH, T Head Married M 40 1861 Skinner For Window Leather
N K Unknown But Christened At Stourbridge He Had Born Travelling with Sang
BIRCH, Emily Wife Married F 39 1862 Oxford
BALDWIN, Amy Harriett Daughter Single F 16 1885 Laundry Ironer Lenton
Nottinghamshire
BALDWIN, Rebecca Daughter Single F 14 1887 Lenton Nottinghamshire
BALDWIN, Ada Daughter Single F 12 1889 Lenton Nottinghamshire
BIRCH, George Edward Son Single M 6 1895 Lenton Nottinghamshire
BIRCH, Beatrice May Daughter Single F 4 1897 Lenton Nottinghamshire
BIRCH, Mary Ellen Daughter Single F 2 1899 Lenton Nottinghamshire
BIRCH, John William Son Single M 0 (6 MOS) 1901 Lenton Nottinghamshire

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3164 Folio:
53 Page:
4

Registration District:
Nottingham Sub District:
Nottingham South West Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity Lenton

Civil Parish:
Nottingham Municipal Borough:
Address:
5, Tanners Yard, Nottingham County:
Nottinghamshire

1911 for Mary Ellen and Amy.


1911 census transcription details for: 4 Alpine Terrace Nottingham
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN20568 RG78PN1230 RD430 SD3 ED28 SN173

Reg. District: Nottingham Sub District: Nottingham North East
Parish: Nottingham Enum. District: 28
Address: 4 Alpine Terrace Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
CLARKE, Charles Middleton Head Married M 24 1887 Laundry Hand New York Resident
CLARKE, Amy Harriett Wife Married
3 years F 25 1886 Laundress Lenton Nottm
CLARKE, Emily Evelyn Daughter F 2 1909 Sneinton Nottm
BIRCH, Mary Ellen Sister In Law F 12 1899 School Lenton Nottm


and Beatrice and Rebecca.


1911 census transcription details for: 27 St Albans ST
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN20570 RG78PN1230 RD430 SD3 ED30 SN68

Reg. District: Nottingham Sub District: Nottingham North East
Parish: Nottingham Enum. District: 30
Address: 27 St Albans ST
County: Nottinghamshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
PRATT, Harold Victor Head Married M 23 1888 Barsman Nottingham
PRATT, Rebecca Wife F 24 1887 Nottingham
BIRCH, Beatrice May Sister Single F 14 1897 Errand Girl Nottingham


and George and (John) William perhaps?


1911 census transcription details for: 108 Park St New Lenton Nottingham
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN20494 RG78PN1228 RD430 SD1 ED5 SN270

Reg. District: Nottingham Sub District: Nottingham South West
Parish: Nottingham Enum. District: 5
Address: 108 Park St New Lenton Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
HOWES, G Head Single M 43 1868 Labourer Woodstock Oxford
WILSON, Ada Housekeeper Single F 39 1872 House Duties Lincolnshire Benneworth
BIRCH, George Nephew M 16 1895 Labourer Brickyard Lenton Notts
BIRCH, William Nephew M 10 1901 School Lenton Notts

Seems possible that the three older children could be Emily's from a previous marriage. Not locating a Birch/Baldwin marriage though.

Thank-you all, I do have the details of the census's. Yes, Emily did marry twice-Thomas was her 2nd husband, Amy, Rebecca & Ada were by her 1st husband (Amy is my grandmother). I am trying to find the baptism & parents of Thomas as I am in contact with his grandson in Australia-thanks to the kind people who helped me find him.
I know it's a long shot but that's the only info I have on him

Thanks Alviegal-they are the correct children-their mother's maiden name was Howes I guess this is her brother with the 2 boys-presumably Thomas & Emily had both died before 1911.

Maureen - I've been searching for a record of the marriage between Thomas and Emily as there could be a chance that the certificate would give Thomas' father's name.

I would have assumed that the marriage would be in Emily's first married name of Baldwin, but I'm having no joy.

Thanks Anne-Marie,
I had the same problem-I am assuming they did marry!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't see any reason that they didn't as Emily was a widow-I wonder if it she married under the name Emma? She was named that on her marriage to Harry Baldwin.

Maureen, I've tried the searches with and without forenames, and I've also tried just listing marriages for Thomas just to see what I might find - nothing!

It did cross my mind that maybe they never bothered. I remember my gran telling me that if someone had previously been married then it wasn't quite the same stigma if they just lived together ...

Thanks Anne-Marie-it's a possibility I suppose that they didn't marry-I haven't heard any 'rumours' in the family that they didn't! It's odd though that there is no trace of any marriage-so I guess I must assume that they didn't. Which doesn't help much in finding Thomas's parnets!

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Thomas Birch Name: Thomas Birch
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 605

same page is

Name: Emma Baldwin
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 605

Well done Tempest! I've searched FreeBMD and Ancestry but didn't find that! The date fits in well with the children's ages on the census.

Thanks Tempest & Anne-Marie-I will be able to send for their marriage cert & hopefully find his father's name at least.
Maureen

Thanks Ann,
I wonder??????? I will have to follow this up & see where it leads!Maureen

Whoops!! Sorry-Carol!

Why start another thread??

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1274431?jump=7735191