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Trying to find Alice Mary who married Joseph Clapson born 1862 who died on HMS invincible in 1916. I am trying to find out whether Alice married again and when she died.She lived in Chichester and was a regular church goer; but the church records cannot help me. My mother now aged 90 lived with her Granny Clapson as a child and would like to know whether she re-married and when she died and where. Trudi

Look for a possible death or re-marriage on freebmd............

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Always go there first for any bmd info between 1837 and approx 1940

1911 for Alices year of birth and marriage year.


CLAPSON, Joseph Head Married M 49 1862 Carter Bearstead Kent
CLAPSON, Alice Mary Wife Married 20 years
F 50 1861 Hambledon Hampshire
CLAPSON, Joseph Cyril Son Single M 19 1892 Upholster Island of Ascension
CLAPSON, Alice Marie Daughter Single F 16 1895 Milliner Portsmouth Hampshire
CLAPSON, Jessie Christina Daughter F 14 1897 School Queenferry Scotland

Registration District:
Chichester Sub District:
Chichester Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Chichester

Address:
20 Lyndhurst Road Chichester County:
Sussex

If your mother lived with her Granny Clapson when did she stop seeing her and knowing her as Clapson ?

Thank you, I had not heard of this site. I will try to find out more. Trudi

Married 20 years,
first child aged 19, born Ascension Island.

They probably married there.

Yes, this is the family.Mum lived with Granny Clapson in the 1920's but unfortunately cannot remember the last time she saw her. She has always referred to her as Clapson though and we know she remained in Chichester for a long time after my Mum grew up. Mum seems to think she was buried in a church in Chichester but I have been in contact and even visited there a month ago- but with no success.
Trudi

Cant find a marriage for them Mike...I have been looking
And rather a variation on her birth year..
1901

CLAPSON, Joseph Head Married M 39 1862 Ships Corporal R Navy
Bearstead
Kent VIEW
CLAPSON, Alice M Wife Married F 44 1857
Hambledon
Hampshire
CLAPSON, Joseph C Son M 9 1892
Island of Ascension
CLAPSON, Alice M Daughter F 6 1895
Fratton Portsmouth
CLAPSON, Jessie C Daughter F 4 1897
Scotland Queensferry
CLAPSON, William D Son M 4 1897
Scotland Queensferry

Registration District:
Portsmouth Sub District:
Kinston and East Southsea Enumeration District:
20 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Southsea St Matthew

Civil Parish:
Portsmouth Municipal Borough:
Address:
Oakdene, Jubilee Road, Portsmouth County:
Hampshire

Child's birth certificate would tell you Alice's maiden name

Births Jun 1894 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Clapson Alice Marie - Portsea 2b 500

Dont think we will find them on 1891 judging by the birth place of first child?Maybe married abroad too..

2 possible deaths for her as Clapson.

Name: Alice M Clapson
Death Registration Month/Year: 1957
Age at death (estimated): 90
Registration district: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5a
Page: 575

Name: Alice M Clapson
Death Registration Month/Year: 1946
Age at death (estimated): 91
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 372


This looks like it may be her coming into Britain with a child aged 2 yrs old.

Name: Mrs Clapson
Birth Date: abt 1853
Age: 40
Port of Departure: Mauritius
Arrival Date: 2 Nov 1893
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Port Elizabeth
[Cape Town]
Ship Name: Linmore
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Linmore' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Donald Currie and Company's Colonial Mail Line
Official Number: 98199

Army men are also on board...

Thank you- the challenge here is that the 1894 one is the daughter Alice Marie. The one I am searching for is Alice Mary; Mother which does make it difficult. I too have found anomalies with Alice Mary's birth date one being 1857 and one 1861. However, this is the correct family. Thank you for your help.
Trudi

The point is, cert for daughter Alice Marie will give you the mother's maiden name.

Aha, thank you - my apologies. How do I go about this- sorry am not really familiar with the process. This is all a real learning curve for me. Trudi

Give me a minute Trudi and I will go to Scotlandspeople and get up the birth of one of the children that were born there and can then tell you her maiden name and when and where she married .
With her maiden name you may well be able to get her birth cert for her exact date of birth.

You can send for one or both of those deaths that I have posted to see if they are her?
Some money will have to spent to try and find your info if you really want to find it.
There are marriages on Freebmd after 1916 for Alice M Clapson which of course you can also send for to see if they are her?

But you still have not said when was the last time your mother saw her as Granny Clapson and still a widow,which would help you with the time frame for a remarrige after then..

For future reference ...

To search for certificates in England and Wales from 1837 look on website freebmd.
LINK :
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Then to order certs online from General Registry Office go to :
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates

Jessie Christina Clapson (Twin of William)was born at 6.30am on Jan 14th 1897 at 3 Clark p[lace,Queensferry.
To
Alce Mary ???Ith
And Joseph Clapson
They married
July 26th 1890 at St Marys Church,Island of Ascension.

I can not read Alice Marys maiden name.
Will have a try on Williams.
Lucky I have some credits and am feeling generous today..


1897 CLAPSON WILLIKAM DONALD M QUEENSFERRY /WEST LOTHIAN 665/02 0004

Born at 6.35am
Mothers maiden name is Meredith.

Births Mar 1855
Meredith Alice Mary Droxford 2c 105


Droxford is in the county of Hampshire.

apologies, I did add a post but it has not appeared. I am very new to all this. Mum last lived with Granny Clapson in the 1920's but cannot remember the last time she saw her. She cannot recall a man living with Granny Clapson- but as Mum is now 90- this may have slipped from her memory.

Thank you Mike so much. I am learning fast!

You're welcome.
So nice to have someone stay online while the search is in progress.

I would send for the death cert in Portsmouth if it were me.

Jessie Christina Clapson (Twin of William)was born at 6.30am on Jan 14th 1897 at 3 Clark p[lace,Queensferry.
To
Alce Mary ???Ith
And Joseph Clapson
They married
July 26th 1890 at St Marys Church,Island of Ascension.

I can not read Alice Marys maiden name.
Will have a try on Williams.
Lucky I have some credits and am feeling generous today..


1897 CLAPSON WILLIKAM DONALD M QUEENSFERRY /WEST LOTHIAN 665/02 0004

Born at 6.35am
Mothers maiden name is Meredith.

Births Mar 1855
Meredith Alice Mary Droxford 2c 105


Droxford is in the county of Hampshire.

I will now search overseas marriages on Find my Past for the marriage.
May as well finish the job !

wow- THANK YOU SO MUCH - FannyByGaslight.Hopefully this will help me to find out whether Alice Mary did re-marry and when she died then. Very much appreciated from such a novice to all this!
Trudi