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Simeon Lord (1818) and Alice Lord (1819) maiden na

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Susan

Susan Report 24 Oct 2010 18:08

Yes, I have Harry's birth, baptism, marriage and death certificates.

Mike *

Mike * Report 24 Oct 2010 18:00

There is this marriage for Simeon - a widower, (with father Simeon) in Rochdale to Alice - but not Hope.

Was Father Simeon a farmer do you know?



Marriage: 31 Jul 1864 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Simeon Lord - 39 Grocer & Butcher Widower of Bluepits, Castleton
Alice Thomas - 24 Spinster of Bluepits, Castleton
Groom's Father: Simeon Lord, Farmer
Bride's Father: Walter Thomas, Engineer
Witness: John Turner; Hannah Thomas
Married by Licence by: Thomas Carter, Curate

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 24 Oct 2010 18:00

so to help people looking at this thread - Harry's baptism which gives us Simeon's occupation

Baptisms: 10 May 1880 St George, Everton, Lancashire, England
Harry Lord - Child of Simeon Lord & Alice
Born: 16 Apr 1879
Abode: 30 Wye St
Occupation: Engineer
Baptised by: H. J. Langley
Register: Baptisms 1866 - 1882, Page 323, Entry 2582
Source: LDS Film 2147913

and the rest of the family in 1881

Simeon LORD Head M Male 36 Mchester, Lancashire, England Engine Fitter At Works
Alice LORD Wife M Female 38 Prestwich, Lancashire, England
Charlotte LORD Daur Female 9 West Derby, Lancashire, England Scholar
Simeon LORD Son Male 6 Holywell, Flint, Wales Scholar
Arnold LORD Son Male 3 Holywell, Flint, Wales
Harry LORD Son Male 1 Everton, Lancashire, England

do you have Harry's birth certificate to confirm his mother's maiden name

Susan

Susan Report 24 Oct 2010 17:54

I have two generations of Simeon Lord, unfortunately both married an Alice. Father, born 1818 married to Alice but I don't know her maiden name, and son born 1845 who married Alice Hope, born 1843 who gave birth to my grandfather Harry in 1880 (died 1960). I agree that there were far too many Lords in the Spotland area, but so far this family appears to answer most of the questions. I am having great difficulty in confirming the line because I cannot find birth records for either Simeon.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 24 Oct 2010 17:13

also on your other thread you say Simeon was born 1850 & Alice Hope in 1855

we also need to sort out what years we are looking at

presumably there were not 2 generations of Simeon Lord who married an Alice Hope

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 24 Oct 2010 16:57

on your other thread you say Simeon & Alice had a son Harry born in Everton in 1879 - that Simeon was born in Manchester

The Simeon born in Spotland seems to be married to a Sally in 1881

you need to confirm which one you are looking at as Simeon Lord is not exactly an uncommon name in the Rochdale/Todmorden area.

If you could tell us how Simeon fits into your tree perhaps we can help you find the right one.

Astra

Astra Report 24 Oct 2010 16:52

Just repeating now what is on the other thread. There seems to be some confusion with dates there as well.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 24 Oct 2010 16:51

1841 This your one.
Name: Simeon Lord
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Rochdale
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Spotland Further Side
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Simeon Lord 20
Alice Lord 20

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 24 Oct 2010 16:49

1841
Name: Simeon Lord
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Rochdale
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Spotland Further Side
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jeremiah Lord 27
Alice Lord 46
James Lord 25
Simeon Lord 21
William Lord 15
Sally Lord 14
Elizabeth Lord 4

Astra

Astra Report 24 Oct 2010 16:49

Are you sure they had children??

Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
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>>HOPE Alice Birkenhead 8a 698
Hughes Elizabeth Birkenhead 8a 698
>>LORD Simeon Birkenhead 8a 698
ROBERTS Morris Birkenhead 8a 698

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 24 Oct 2010 16:48

other thread still there

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1244991

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 24 Oct 2010 16:47

1841
Name: Simon Lord
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Rochdale
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Whitworth and Brandwood
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Lord 60
Martha Lord 50
John Lord 30
Robert Lord 25
Simon Lord 20
Ann Lord 15
Mary Greenwood 60

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 24 Oct 2010 16:43

Historical Geography
In 1835 Spotland was a township in the parish of Rochdale.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 24 Oct 2010 16:41

SPOTLAND, a township and a chapelry in Rochdale parish, Lancashire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Oct 2010 16:30

Susan, do you already have a thread about Simeon Lord? Or has it been deleted? (Just trying to avoid reinventing the wheel!)

Susan

Susan Report 24 Oct 2010 16:30

Simeon Lord, born 1818 in Spotland, Lancashire, married Alice (born 1819). They had 5 children, Jane, Simeon, Mary, George and Abraham. I do not know how to find notice of Simeon's birth. Can you help?