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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1842
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ECKLEY Sarah Jane Preston Preston ASTLEY PRES/18/94
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1842
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
ECKLEY Sarah Jane 0 Preston Preston PRES/15/46

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1843
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ECKLEY Sarah Jane Preston Preston ASTLEY PRES/25/46

Baptism: 9 Jan 1844 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Sarah Jane Eckley - [Child] of John Eckley & Mary
Abode: Adelphi St
Occupation: Mechanic
Baptised by: certified by W P Jones
Register: Baptisms 1842 - 1845, Page 227, Entry 1814
Source: LDS Film 1278755

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1846
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ECKLEY Mary Ann Preston Preston ASTLEY PRES/35/48

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1849
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ECKLEY Agnes Preston Preston ASTLEY PRES/48/71
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1849
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
ECKLEY Agnes 0 Preston Preston PRES/38/17

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ECKLEY Alice Preston Preston ASTLEY PRES/56/50

Baptism: 11 Oct 1850 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Victoria Alice Eckley - [Child] of John Eckley & Mary Ann
Abode: Hudson St.
Occupation: Mechanic
Baptised by: John Kitton, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1850 - 1852, Page 3, Entry 24
Source: LDS Film 93988

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1854
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ECKLEY Ellen Preston Preston ASTLEY PRES/80/85

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1857
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ECKLEY Eliza Preston Preston ASTLEY PRES/96/8
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1857
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
ECKLEY Eliza 0 Preston Preston PRES/73/25

Hi Janet
I believe William Peter was in the 1901 Census located in Belmont Rd Liverpool Inmate Ret'd Painter. This I believe to be Test House in Belmont Road, the vagrant workhouse of the West Derby Union (later known as Newsham General Hospital). William is my Great Grand Father.

George

thanks for looking, its' good sometimes to have a second pair of eyes/opinion

Hi Janet It looks like the same family to me.
Don't know where william was in 1901 but Alice is still down as married.

It looks as though William Peter Peridy just dropped his last name.
Peridy may also have been mistranscribed as I can't find anything on him and there is no original view for marriage record.

In 1881 he is William Peter house painter.Born Scotland.Also with them is Sarah McCluche 1845 sister in law so thats another clue that it is the same William Peter Peridy.

1911 20,Redbourn Street Anfield Liverpool
George william Rowson 1883 Ships cook
Mary Rowson 1884
Hypatia Carey married born 1886 sister in law she married George F Carey in 1910.
William Peters 1892 single brother in law ships steward.

Maryb

Thanks I have purchased the image of the Graham/Graham marriage from Scotland's People and almost the entire page is for soldiers

James Graham Corporal 1st battallion Royal & Margaret Graham in this parish.

any ideas on the query about Alice and William?

Janet - ms=maiden surname

On this thread there is mention of a marriage between Alice Eckley and a Willliam P Peridy, no trace can be found in the name of Peridy after that date.

The marriage is Dec quarter 1872 Manchester Cathedral

Could it be that this William Peridy is in fact the William Peters who appears on the 1891 census with wife Alice and could there be an error in the bmd list for this marriage ?

This same family appear on 1901 census in West Derby Lancs (minus William) but with same children I noticed that one is called Hypatia which is a pretty unusual name and how I found them.

ok many thanks I will check that out

Jan

Sorry, I should have said that was a submitted record.

From the information on the death certificate - yes. you are looking for a Graham - Graham marriage.

Graham is a fairly common surname in the Falkirk / Stirlingshire area so it is quite likely that a Graham would marry a Graham.


??? From the IGI

JAMES GRAHAM Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MARGARET GRAHAM Family
Marriage: 06 JUN 1798 Stirling, Stirling, Scotland

Husband Age at Marriage: 25
Wife Age at Marriage: 21

What I meant was, that when the said margaret mcluckie (nee Graham) died in 1876 it said her father was James Graham and her mothers maiden name was also Graham so I am looking for her parents a marriage between two Grahams?

James Mcluckie 1807 married Margaret Graham 1807 27/10/1827 in Campsie Stirlingshire.

Maryb

Hi rootgatherer are you there?

so I am to look for a marriage between a james Graham and a Margaret Graham.?

James Graham and Margaret Graham (ms Graham)

is that what it says ms?

James' profession was a farmer

Hi Janet - have a look on that beta site again, I had actually suspected that Margaret's mother's maiden name would be Graham! Not as uncommon as you may think! First cousins often married. What were her parents' names please?

Margaret McLuckie's death record says mmn also Graham.........

how do i deal with that one !

she died 19/12/1876

Narrowed a bit by fact that archie's marriage cert says his father is deceased so died before 1869 (although I know that's not always the case)

That's great Janet! James and Margaret's marriage is on the beta.familysearch site. The christenings for the children are there but I don't see Archibald b. 1840 but there is one born earlier so he must have died.

If you are looking for deaths for James and Margaret, look for Margaret's first as you can use both surnames to search. Her death certificate should say if she was "married to" or "widow of" and that will narrow death dates for James. Good luck.

My you have been busy whilst I have been at work.!!

I bought the image off Scotlands People for Archie McLuckie and Sarah Jane Eckley's marriage her parents George and Mary Eckley (nee Astley) as prevoiusly mentioned

and his James LcLuckie and Margaret McLuckie (nee Graham)

James's brothers Adam and John in 1841?

Piece: SCT1841/475 Place: Campsie -Stirlingshire Enumeration District: 9
Civil Parish: Campsie Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Campsie
Folio: 0 Page: 9
Address: Main Street



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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCLUCKIE Adam M 36 Calico Printer Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)
MCLUCKIE Agnes F 37 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE John M 13 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE Mary F 10 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE George M 8 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE Adam M 4 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE Sophia F 6 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE William M 2 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE Helen M 6m Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE John M 38 Server Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)
MCLUCKIE Christiana F 6 Outside Census County (1841



Marriages and christenings for some of the above available here

https://beta.familysearch.org/