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Edwin's daughter married my uncle. They had no children.

Found this death, maybe James'

(>Sep 1886 99%)

Catherall, James 48 yrs Lambeth 1d 212

The only details given on any census is the relationship to the head of household.

Are you descended from one of these children?

I haven't found James or Eleanor after 1881, only Victor and Emma.

Christine

Just a query, on the original 1881 Census does it have anything about Eleanor being a step parent?

Thanks, Christine it looks like James might have married again

You need a birth cert for one of the children to confirm mmn.

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
Catherall Emma Eliza Lambeth 1d 524

Possible death of Rosina.

Deaths Sep 1872 (>99%)
CATHERALL Rosina Ann 34 Lambeth 1d 242

Christine

This looks like the family in 1871, mother is down as Rosena.

1871 England Census
about James Catherall
Name: James Catherall
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Rosena A Catherall
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
James Catherall 32
Rosena A Catherall 32
Rose A Catherall 3
Edwin J Catherall 1
Mary A Rogers 21
Ann L Rogers 18

Probably this marriage.

Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
Catherall James Shoreditch 1c 516
Wilkins Rosina Ann Shoreditch 1c 516

Name: James Catherall
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Spouse Name: Rosina Ann Wilkins
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1865
Parish: St Mark, Shoreditch
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: George Catherall
Spouse Father Name: John Wilkins

Christine

Hi again, can someone please see if they can find a marriage of James Catherall to Eleanor ??? both born Hoxton, Middlesex, I have checked free bdm but cannot find one.

This is the family on 1881 Census

Catherall, James Head Married M 43 1838 Labourer Hoxton, Middlesex
Catherall, Eleanor Wife Married F 44 1837 Hoxton, Middlesex
Rose A daughter single F 13 1868 Lambeth, Surrey
Edwin J son single M 11 1870 Lambeth, Surrey
Victor J son single M 9 1872 Lambeth, Surrey
Emma E daughter F 6 1875 Lambeth, Surrey

Name: John Seath
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Seath
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 6 Roxburgh Grove
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Gen Labr

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 18a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Seath 46
Ann Seath 52
John Seath 20



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 214; Folio: 63; Page: 31; GSU roll: 1341047.

Banns
Name: John Seath
Spouse Name: Ann Tidmarsh
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 02 Apr 1871
Parish: Christ Church, Somers Town
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden

Name: John Seath
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Spouse Name: Hannah Putt
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 02 Nov 1858
Parish: St George, Bloomsbury
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Alexander Seath
spouse Father Name: William Putt

not sure tho as John is down as a constable?? BUT ties with the baptism of John William Putt Seath

Its nearly midnight in Australia, so I'm off to bed now. Thanks again

Name: James Buffin
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 37
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 89

Name: Hannah Eliza Seath
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Spouse Name: James Buffin
Spouse Age: 29
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 09 Sep 1883
Parish: Holy Trinity, Haverstock Hill
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: John Seath occ labourer
Spouse Father Name: John William Buffin
address
Hannah- 156 Prince of Wales Road
John- 1 Harwood road

maybe
Name: Hannah Eliza Seath
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1863
Baptism Date: 14 Jun 1863
Father's name: John Seath
Mother's name: Hannah Seath
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bloomsbury St George
Borough: Camden


Name: John William Putt Seath
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1861
Baptism Date: 25 Aug 1861
Father's name: John Seath
Mother's name: Hannah Seath
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bloomsbury St George
Borough: Camden

I can't believe it, after doing about 8 family histories, it is the 1st time that there has been a Smith, oh well I suppose it had to happen sooner or later!!

this will give mums name
Name: Annie Amelia Seath
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 489

1891

BUFFIN, James Head Married M 36 1855 Greengrocer
London VIEW
BUFFIN, Hannah Wife Married F 28 1863
Marylebone
London VIEW
BUFFIN, Harry Son Single M 6 1885
St Pancras
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
135 Folio:
41 Page:
6

Registration District:
Pancras Sub District:
Kentish Town Enumeration District:
21 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Andrew

Civil Parish:
St Pancras Municipal Borough:
Address:
37, Rhyl Street, St Pancras County:
London

1871 census
Name: Hannah Seath
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Seath
Mother's name: Ellen Smith NO!!
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
address 5 Upper William Street
Household schedule number: 154
Household Members: Name Age
John Seath 37occ cab driver widower b ??? Fifeshire
Ellen Smith 25 ?? b Eastbutterwick lincolnshire
Amelia Seath 11
John Seath 10
Hannah Seath 8
Sally Seath 5 b St Pancras
William Seath 2 b St Pancras



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 185; Folio: 17; Page: 27; GSU roll: 823309.

Ellen is down as wife but the first on the list before John as Head there deosnt seem to be births for Sally Seath or william so wonder if they are in fact Smith ??

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Births Dec 1862
SEATH Hannah Eliza - Marylebone 1a 380

1901 census

CATHERALL, Edwin Head Married M 31 1870 Carman
Lambeth
London VIEW
CATHERALL, Hannah Wife Married F 38 1863
Pancras
London VIEW
CATHERALL, Douglas Son M 7 1894
Pancras
London VIEW
CATHERALL, Victor Son M 6 1895
Pancras
London VIEW
CATHERALL, Maud Daughter F 4 1897
Pancras
London VIEW
CATHERALL, Ivy Daughter F 0 (11 MOS) 1901
Pancras
London VIEW
BUFFIN, Harry Step Son Single M 16 1885 Brass Finisher
Pancras
London VIEW
SEATH, Sarah Sister-In-Law Single F 35 1866 Domestic Servant
Pancras
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
152 Folio:
14 Page:
19

Registration District:
St Pancras Sub District:
Camden Town Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Barnabas Kentish Town

Civil Parish:
St Pancras Municipal Borough:
Address:
38, Inkerman Road, St Pancras County:
London

Thanks, it looks like she was married before, thats why I couldnt find her birth. Just checked she was born Dec 1862