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Hi Julie
I am so pleased that you are happy with what everyone has found for you.
The details of contacts for the sisters of mercy is on a reply above but I thought it might be useful to you to have things all together, so that you can perhaps highlight/copy and print it all in one go to look at at your leisure. So I have taken the liberty of typing most of the possible relevant details below -
You really need the marriage certificate of your grandparents Julie to check whether Neil has his fathers name the same as the one we have found. Just to make sure that we have the right family. You can order it here - https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
The marriage was Oct-Dec quarter of 1924 in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire reference 7b 239
Charlotte Candrick to Neil Kelly.
Charlotte Candrick was born July-Sept 1901 (7th June from death ref) in Merthyr Tydfil – Breconshire, Glamorgan. Volume 11a page 709
Died July-Sept 1978 – Mansfield, Nottinghamshire – Volume 8 Page 0183
Neil Kelly Death reference – April-June 1967 – age estimated 63 – Mansfield ref 3c 190
Possible birth for Neil found on Scotlands people –
Neil Kelly birth July 12th 1903 at 26 East Mill Yard - Arbroath
Father Charles Kelly – General Labourer – Mother Mary Ann Kelly, formerly Gordon, Maiden surname O’Neill. Charles and Mary. Married March 24th 1899 in Edinburgh.
Birth Registered by Mary Kelly on 1st August 1903
Possible first marriage for Mary O’Neill (Neil’s mother) to Robert Gordon in 1883 in Arbroath.
Likely death for Neil’s mother Mary Ann Kelly/Gordon/O’Neil – 1914 in Arbroath, Angus – aged 52 yrs
Marriage details for (possible) Neil’s parents i.e. your great grandparents.
21st March 1899 at 8 Royal Crescent Edinburgh after banns – The Church of Scotland
Charles Kelly – Masons labourer – bachelor – aged 42 – living at 23 Albert Street Edinburgh
To Mary Ann O’Neill or Gordon – widow – aged 39 – Living at the same address
Possible birth ref of Charles –
Father: Charles Kelly
Mother: Mary Docherty
CHARLES KELLY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 04 AUG 1855 Neilston, Renfrew, Scotland
HIS parents (your possible great great grandparents) – William Kelly – Plumber and Gasfitter – and Mary Kelly, maiden surname Docherty
HER parents (also possibly your great great grandparents) – Charles O’Neill – General Labourer – deceased – and Alice O’Neill maiden surname Alice Lean (or could be McLean)
This looks a possible for O’Neil family in 1871 with Alice mistranscribed as Alles
Name: Mary Oneil
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: Charles Oneil
Mother's name: Alles Oneil
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Forfar Shire
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Union Street
Occupation: Mill Worker
ED: 18
Household schedule number: 10/2
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1871_52
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Oneil 51
Alles Oneil 50
Therese McGure 23
Elizabeth Oneil 21
Annie Oneil 13
Mary Oneil 11
Charles Oneil 9
James McQuir 2
Betsy McQuir 9 MO
Some likely birth references for the family –
Father: Charles Oneil,
Mother: Alice Mclean
Children:
1. CHARLES O'NEIL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 19 JUL 1862 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
2. ANN O'NEIL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 23 APR 1858 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
3. MARY O NEIL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 29 APR 1860 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
And it looks as though the McGuire children are from a marriage of the daughter Therese to a Bernard McGuire –
Father: Bernard Mcguire,
Mother: Therese O'Neil
1. BETSY MCGUIRE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 25 JUN 1870 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
2. JAMES MCGUIRE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 18 OCT 1868 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
3. CHARLES MCGUIRE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 JUN 1870 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
4. MARY MCGUIRE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 27 OCT 1872 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
You could try contacting the sisters of Mercy Julie and explain what you are looking for. I have come up with this -
Convent of Mercy, 62 Hill Street, GLASGOW. G3 6RH. Their website is www.sistersofmercyunion.org.uk and the e-mail address is [email protected]. They might be able to help.
Or these two which are associates of the Sisters of Mercy -
Scotland - Elgin Sr Oliver Kehoe
Link:J.Rose 01343 547806 [email protected]
Scotland - Glasgow Sr Annette McCartan
Link:Marilyn Leich 01413 320895> [email protected] or [email protected]
Chris
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p.s. If you would like to actually see the birth and marriage certificate before I delete them from my computer I would need you e-mail address so that I could send them as an attachment.
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