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thankyou all in trying to solve this with me. i was at the libray and had no luck with william and ada. i found ada coles and then her marriage to william ssept 1897.i think i will try outside of oxford or divorces.

ada maud coles brn 1881 i think she could be brn illegitmate as maria and william ages.

christine
she is the sister of my 4th grandfather. i looked for marriages and then kept cross checking to see if it was right, but i found the marriage for ada but to check im correct i always look for children born to ada and william and then i got the right one. but they are proving to be hard to trace.

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"any help please im back with this, i have been to the libray, i have paid find my past twice, ancestry, family search. roots web. i need to find with help please. ada maud coles married william jt sheppard in sept 1897. in oxford st johns. i find william aged 32 married but living with his mum. where is ada and any children?? could she be else?? i have not found her in the death records. could someone help and try bristrol or gloucester . many thanks. "

Would recommend all info in one place for ease of reference.

Don't know if this is a possible 1911? He was a waiter on the 1901.

IORNS, Agnes Ann Head Single F 50 1861 Hotel Proprietress Temperance Oxford Oxon
IORNS, Ellen Amelia Niece Single F 33 1878 Bookeeper Bilston Staffs
>> SHEPHEARD, William Domestic Servant Married M 44 1867 Head Boots Burford Oxon
TARGELT, Annie Domestic Servant Single F 37 1874 Cook Clifden Hampden Oxon
WOODS, Florence Minnie Domestic Servant Single F 34 1877 Waitress Cardiff S Wales
BRYANT, Charlotte Bessie Domestic Servant Single F 22 1889 Waitress Cuddesdon Oxon
DARBY, Tathleen Mary Domestic Servant Single F 22 1889 Housemaid Oxford Oxon
PRATLEY, Cyril Alexander Domestic Servant Single M 21 1890 Second Boots Leafield Oxon
BROOKS, Alice Louisa Domestic Servant Single F 26 1885 Chambermaid Oxford Oxon
SPEELMAN, Cornelius Johannes Single M 22 1889 Visitor Commercial Traveller Warmond Holland

RG number: RG14 Piece: 8147
Reference: RG14PN8147 RG78PN413 RD153 SD1 ED6 SN22

Registration District: Oxford
Sub District: Oxford
Enumeration District: 6
Parish: St Peter Le Bailey

Address: 34 Queen St Oxford County: Oxfordshire

** on the original it says he'd been married 17 years with 6 children.

thankyou i will get started on it, this looks really promising.

Do you know when William died? I am just wondering if she got married again?

Marriages Dec 1926
Sheppard Ada M Timmins W.Bromwich 6b 1676
Timmins Arthur T Sheppard W.Bromwich 6b 1676

Selena
See earlier, William did not die until 1936 and may have married a second time in 1911 which lends credence to the idea that the marriage to Ada was annulled or divorced

I very much doubt that the 1911 census posted is the right one -that William says he has been married 17 years which means 1894 not thecorrect 1897 and the spelling is different and there are no middle initials

thankyou for the infromation, that also looks promiseing that ada couldve remarried . im now going to send off for her marriage cerificate. thia is still mind boggleing. i have been to the church records and still could not find her, maybe she did leave oxfordshire???????

Hi - Julie
Please hold on a minute before you send for that marriage cert. I think it is the wrong one. Will post why in a second.
Chris

These are the likely births and deaths of that couple -

Births Jun 1906
Timmins Arthur Thomas W. Bromwich 6b 894

Name: Arthur Thomas Timmins
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: 1980
Registration district: Sandwell
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 33
Page: 1240

Births Mar 1907
SHEPPARD Ada Maud Gloucester 6a 293

Name: Ada Maud Timmins
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1999
Age at death (estimated): 92
Registration district: Sandwell
Inferred County: West Midlands
Register number: A60
District and Subdistrict: 0701A
Entry number: 24

Oh dear, I've just realise that you posted YESTERDAY that you were sending for the cert.

hi christine thankyou for this infromation, but i still need to find her marriage to sheppard or this man?? but my ada maud was brn in oxford 1881 above is the birth of a ada m born in 1907?? maybe mr timmins is her second husband . but thankyou anyway.

No Julie, you misunderstand, I was saying that doesn't look like the marriage because her age is wrong.

You have the details of her marriage to in Sept 1897 to William John T Sheppard.