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My great grandmother was Elizabeth Spark Hughes born Elizabeth Spark Anderson in Aberdeen in 1873. She married James Hughes in Dundee in 1883 which would make her only 10 years old when she was married. She gave birth to my grandmother Elizabeth Stewart Hughes in 1889 when she was 16. All the above info via Scotlands People.
I understand that it IS possible that she was only 10 when she married but was there another Elizabeth Spark Anderson ? And what age was James Hughes when they were married ?
Ive run out of credits with Scotlands People. If anyone out there could look up my two questions I would appreciate it !
Graham

Hi Graham,

could this be your Gran?

1891 Scotland Census about Elizabeth Hughes
Name: Elizabeth Hughes
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's name: James Hughes
Mother's name: Elizabeth Hughes
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 1 Crescent Lane
ED: 19
Household schedule number: 135
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1891_94
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hughes 29
Elizabeth Hughes 34
Anna Hughes 6
Margaret Hughes 4
Elizabeth Hughes 1
Isabella Hughes 6 MO


Dee x

Doing a free general search on Scotlands people there is a birth in 1899 for your Gran in Angus............ so it's looking likely that the family I found is looking good.

Dee x

As per brummiejean's post with 1891 census, this is the mother, Elizabeth Hughes(poss Anderson)
Says she was born 1857 in Dundee.

1891 Scotland Census 1891 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth Hughes
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Hughes
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 1 Crescent Lane
ED: 19
Household schedule number: 135
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1891_94
Household Members: Name Age
James Hughes 29
Elizabeth Hughes 34
Anna Hughes 6
Margaret Hughes 4
Elizabeth Hughes 1
Isabella Hughes 6 MO



Regards
Kath

Info from the marriage cert:

Elizabeth aged 22 - Jute weaver - father David Anderson, Mason dec'd. Mother Ann Dalgleish Anderson ms McDonald

James aged 21 (can't read occ.) - father Thomas, cotton mill weaver dec'd. Mother Mary m.s. (looks like McCann).


Mary

Birth cert info:

Elizabeth Stewart Hughes - 27th April 1889. Father: James Hughes, occ Electrician. Mother: Elizabeth Sparks Hughes m.s. Anderson. Married March 25th 1883 Dundee.

If you want these images send me a pm with your email addy.

Mary

1871 Scotland Census about Elizabeth Anderson
Name: Elizabeth Anderson
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: David Anderson
Mother's name: Ann Anderson
Gender: Female
Where born: Guthrie, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: St Andrew
County: Angus
Address: 12 King St Court
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 130
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1871_52
Household Members:
Name Age
David Anderson 52 >> mason
Ann Anderson 53
Elizabeth Anderson 15
Margaret Anderson 12
Thomas Reid 43
George Davidson


1881 Scotland Census about Elizth Anderson
Name: Elizth Anderson
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relationship: Daughter
Mother's name: Ann Anderson
Gender: Female
Where born: Paris of Guthrie, Curbrido
Registration Number: 282/3
Registration district: St Clement
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: India Buildings 78 Bell Street
Occupation: Steamloom Weaver
ED: 11
Household schedule number: 90
Line: 11
Roll: cssct1881_84
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Anderson 64
Elizth Anderson 25
Margt Anderson 22


Dee x

1851 Scotland Census about David Anderson
Name: David Anderson
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Anderson
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunnichen, Forfarshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Coupars Alley 7
Occupation: Mason
ED: 67
Page: 19 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 75
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1851_62
Household Members:
Name Age
David Anderson 32
Ann Anderson 32
Jas Anderson 2
Stewart Anderson 1



1861 Scotland Census about Ann Anderson
Name: Ann Anderson
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : David Anderson
Gender: Female
Where born: Goran, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 282/1
Registration district: Dundee First District
Civil Parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 94 Ferry Road
Occupation: Stone Masins Wife
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 197
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_39
Household Members:
Name Age
David Anderson 42
Ann Anderson 42
Isabella Anderson 18
James Anderson 12
Stewart Anderson 11
Peter Anderson 9
Catherine S Anderson 7
Elizabeth Anderson 5
Margaret Anderson 2

I tried doing a free search on Scotlands people for Elizabeths birth around 1856/7 in Dundee.

I found an Elizabeth Spark Donald registered........ so I wonder if this was actually her??

Hi Batmansdaughter

I can see one in 1856 Aberdeen but not one in Dundee?

Mary

It may have been the Aberdeen one Mary, I'm just going off memory from this morning.


Dee x

Ah! In that case Dee - no, it's not her......I can't help myself, I just have to be nosy and look! LOL

Her father is called Charles and is a farm servant.

Mary

Just like me Mary..... but I like to call it intrigued rather than nosey! LOL!!

Bare with me here;

1861 England Census about Thomas Hughes
Name: Thomas Hughes
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Hughes
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 219
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hughes 42 >> Cotton weaver
Mary Hughes 38
Thomas J Hughes 14
Sarah Hughes 12
Edward Hughes 10
John Hughes 8
William Hughes 2



1871 England Census about James Hughes
Name: James Hughes
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Hughes
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 256
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hughes 55
Mary Hughes 55
Sarah Hughes 22
Edward Hughes 20
John Hughes 16
William Hughes 13
>>>>>>>>>>James Hughes 9
Margaret Hughes 5


1881 England Census about James Hughes
Name: James Hughes
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Mary Hughes
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Chorlton On Medlock
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 15 Renshaw St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Telegraph Clerk
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton Upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 54
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Hughes 60
Sarah Hughes 32
William Hughes 21
James Hughes 19
Margaret Hughes 15


1891 Scotland Census about James Hughes
Name: James Hughes
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elizabeth Hughes
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 1 Crescent Lane
Occupation: Telephone Linesman
ED: 19
Household schedule number: 135
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1891_94
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hughes 29
Elizabeth Hughes 34
Anna Hughes 6
Margaret Hughes 4
Elizabeth Hughes 1
Isabella Hughes 6 MO



Name: James Francis Hughes
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Oct 1861
Baptism/Christening Place: Abbots Salford, Warwick, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Hughes
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Morgan Hughes
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04949-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1999507
Reference Number: Item 12
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


So could Mums surname have been Morgan??

Dee x

Graham, I think this is the record that you found?

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ELIZABETH SPARK ANDERSON Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
26 SEP 1873 Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: ALEXANDER ANDERSON Family
Mother: ELIZABETH DALGARNO

I see where you're going with that Dee, and you could well be right..........but I'm pretty sure Mary's maiden name began Mc.

It looks like McCann to me......do you want me to send it to you and see what you make the name out to be?

Mary

DAVID ANDERSON Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: ANN MCDONALD Family
Marriage:
03 MAY 1850 Alyth, Perth, Scotland

Thanks everyone ! Ive got a copy of my grandmother Elizabeth Stewart Hughs 's birth record (born April 27th 1889) and her parents were definitely James Hughes, Electrician and Elizabeth Spark Hughes formerly Anderson. This record shows the marriage date as May 25th 1883 and I have found that in the marriage records.
I could only find one person in the family with the unusual middle name of "Spark" and she was definitely born in 1873.
Graham

Graham

The birth for Elizabeth Spark Anderson in 1873 (posted by Alviegal) - her parents are Alexander Anderson and Elizabeth Dalgarno.

I looked at that birth cert and her father Alexander's occupation was *Mason* -

I asked if you wanted the images I saved from SP.....do you want them or not? If not I will delete them.

Mary

Edited.

It would have been illegal to perform a marriage of a 10 year old person in Scotland,and would have even in the 18th cen been void and taken to a court.