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I am trying (without much luck), to find the marriage of George Parker to Annie Hurry. These are my fathers parents, I believe George lived in Plaistow in East London and Annie lived in Ilford or possibly Little Iford/Manor Park. Any help with this would be very much appreciated

Irene

Sorry not to have replied earlier, but I could not get into this thread.

I can only think it might be Ilford/Manor Park as that was where Annie's family lived and it was here that she was living when my father was born in 1917.

Irene

Could this be a possibility with the name misheard?


Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%)

OLLEY Annie L Parker Croydon 2a 401
Parker George Olley Croydon 2a 401

Christine

Thanks Christine , but no I don't think they were ever in Croydon and Olley is not a name anywhere in my tree.

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Thanks again,

Irene

There are births for Olley/Parker (in Croydon) as well as Hurry/Parker (in Romford), so probably not that marriage (which is a pity).

Could it have been Annie's second marriage?
What is her birth date?
Thanks

Maybe

Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
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Hurry Annie Romford 4a 373


Andy

Could this be her ?

1891 -

HURRY, Robert Head Married M 28 1863 General Labourer
Ham Street
Norfolk VIEW
HURRY, Emily Wife Married F 28 1863
Ilford
Essex VIEW
HURRY, Alice Daughter F 8 1883
Ilford
Essex VIEW
HURRY, Eda Daughter F 6 1885
Ilford
Essex VIEW
HURRY, Robert Son M 3 1888
Ilford
Essex VIEW
>>>>>>HURRY, Anne Daughter F 1 1890
Ilford
Essex VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1370 Folio:
17 Page:
27

Registration District:
Romford Sub District:
Ilford Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Marys

Civil Parish:
Ilford Municipal Borough:
Address:
4, Grove Steps, Ilford County:
Essex



1901 -

HURRY, Robert Head Married M 37 1864 Bricklayers Laborer
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
HURRY, Robert Son Single M 13 1888
Ilford
Essex VIEW
HURRY, Edith Daughter Single F 16 1885
Ilford
Essex VIEW
>>>>>>HURRY, Annie Daughter Single F 11 1890
Ilford
Essex VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1602 Folio:
54 Page:
13

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
East Ham Enumeration District:
45 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary the Virgin Little Ilford

Civil Parish:
East Ham Municipal Borough:
Address:
77, Bessborough Road, East Ham County:
Essex



1911

SMITH, William Head Married
23 years M 44 1867 General Labourer Balham London VIEW
SMITH, Jane Wife Married F 46 1865 Old Ford London VIEW
SMITH, Emily Jane Daughter Single F 21 1890 General Servant Domestic Forest Gate Essex VIEW
SMITH, Alice Maud Daughter Single F 19 1892 General Servant Domestic Forest Gate Essex VIEW
SMITH, William Ann Daughter Single F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic Balham London VIEW
SMITH, William George Son M 14 1897 Forest Gate Essex VIEW
SMITH, Florence May Daughter F 1 1910 East Ham Essex VIEW
SMITH, Albert Edward Son M 7 1904 Manor Pk Essex VIEW
SMITH, Annie Daughter F 1 1910 Upton Pk Essex VIEW
>>>>>HARRY, Annie Boarder Single F 22 1889 Essex Ilford VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9436 Reference:
RG14PN9436 RG78PN507A RD188 SD3 ED26 SN258

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Plaistow Enumeration District:
26 Parish:
West Ham

Address:
172 Queens Road Plaistow E County:
Essex

Evening Somerset girl, & Choccy,

I don't think that the Camberwell address is the right one as I know Annie was born in Essex. George and Edith are my father and aunt.


Choccy the 1891 & 1901 Census information is quite correct, that was my grandmothers family - the 1911 could be her but it really is the marriage as with this I cannot find the information on my grandfathers family as I without the marriage certificate for him I don't seem to be able ascertain which (of the many) George Parker is the right one. He was killed in an accident in the laundry where he work in 1921, the only clue I have so far isthat his death was registered by his Sister a Lucy Street, who at the time lived in Lee,Kent.

Sorry to have babbled on and thank you for your interest.

Irene

If all else failed you could get Lucy's marriage cert for her and George's father:

Parker Lucy Kensington 1a 375 JAS 1898.
Street William George Kensington 1a 375 JAS 1898.

I'll see if LMA has the marriage first though.

Yes it does.

Name: William George Street labourer.
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Spouse Name: Lucy Parker
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 01 Aug 1898
Parish: St Mark, Notting Hill
County: Middlesex
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: Charles Street labourer.
Spouse Father Name: James Parker labourer.

Bride & groom's address: 3 Talbot Mews

Gives you sister Lucy Parker as born c1879, you know roughly when George was born from his age at death, with father James a labourer, may help to narrow things down a little .

1891?

Name: Lucy Parker
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Parker
Mother's name: Mary A Parker
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James Norlands
County/Island: London
Country: England
:
Household Members: Name Age
>>>>James Parker 51 labourer c1840 Kensington.
Mary A Parker 49 c1842 Kensington.
James Parker 23
Presulla Parker 27
Eorcly Parker 18
John Parker 16
>>>>Lucy Parker 12 c 1879 Kensington.
>>>>George Parker 16 c1875 kensington.
Edward H Parker 6
William Parker 1


Does the age work for your George??? I realise birthplace is not Plaistow.

Evening Kucinta,

Sory for delay in answering. I have checked the information but donot thinlk this is the right family as according to my grandfather death certificate he was 40 year old, at the time of death, which was 21st February 1921.

Thanks for your interest,

Irene

There's only one Lucy Parker/Street marriage so that has to be the correct one. Just so happens she has a brother called George. What are the odds?


Given George's age it seems likely he was previously married.

George married Annie Lockyer . Same address on 3 Talbot Mews and same witnesses.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about George Parker
Name: George Parker
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Spouse Name: Annie Lockyer
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 23 Apr 1900
Parish: St Mark, Notting Hill
County: Middlesex
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: James Parker
Spouse Father Name: Henry Lockyer

Rose

1901 England Census
about George Parker
Name: George Parker
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie Parker
Gender: Male
Where born: Notting Hill, London, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Mary, Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
George Parker 20
Annie Parker 21


Rose

Thanks for that, Rose. My feelings were the same, only the one Lucy Parker - Street marriage, so I feel father James as a labourer has to be right, and the 1891census info seemed to fit, apart from the lack of a Plaistow birthplace for George.

If your marriage to Annie Lockyer is the same George, which looks pretty certain to me, then maybe there is no marriage to Annie Hurry because George was still married to Annie Lockyer and not free to marry again?

Seems rather too much of a coincidence that the witnesses and address are the same on Lucy Parker's marriage and George Parker's marriage too.

Age on death cert was only as reliable as the informant.

Just looked at the image for 1891 and George is 10 so the age does fit.

Rose

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Later edit:

Just to say that in the census 1891 I found, the children of James and Mary Ann Parker were listed in descending order of age EXCEPT FOR '16 yr old' GEORGE.

Once Rose has discovered he is 10, not 16 as mistranscribed, all children including George are in descending order of age. There is already a 16 yr old son John listed in the sequence. If he and george were twins, they would surely have been listed together?

Also, in the marriage Rose found for George Parker and Annie Lockyer, his age is right for aged 10 in the census, and aged 40 at death.

Edit: I overlooked Prescilla on census 1891 who has also been mistranscribd, she is 21 on the image, not 27 as transcribed.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about George Parker
Name: George Parker
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1882
Baptism Date: 1 Nov 1882
Father's name: James Parker
Mother's name: Mary Ann Parker
Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill St Clement
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

Birth is listed as April 22nd 1881

Rose

Kucinta,

Do you have access to the 1911 census. There's a George Parker born Notting Hill in Croydon.

Rose