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Keep us posted, Richard, when you get the cert details.

Happy hunting,
Ozi

send me your email addy and I will forward the cert.

let's hope the certificates make things a bit clearer as to surnames

Thank you
I believe you have found a match.
It looks like my ggfather was William Dawson married to Jane Staniland (later Davis) and they had a son Richard Dawson born Aug 15, 1847 and the name was changed to Davis. Not quite clear where Dalton comes in .
I am going to try to obtain the B and M certs.
Any other thoughts would be most appreciated and thank you all Choccy/Lindsey/Ozibird for your great investigative work.

Best wishes for a happy and healthy 2011

Richard

The birth cert says Richard, son of William Dalton and Jane formerly Staniland. Montisfort . Father Policeman at Rail road station !
10 July 1847 Romsey and Mitchelmersh

I;m going to be very disappointed if i'm wrong !!

Richard,
You have put:
'I understand Dunbridge is about 20 miles from Brockenhuirst which is in the Forest of Dean. Apparrently Comyns published a book which covers life in that area in 1800's and has lots of names. I am trying to get this data. I have found one William in Brockenhurst in 1818 but no record of his marriage or chidlren'
Brockenhurst is in the New Forest, not the Forest of Dean, so I hope the Comyns data is the correct area.

1841 England Census about Jerh Staniland
Name: Jerh Staniland
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Tickhill
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (South Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Westgate

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Tickhill
Household Members: Name Age
Jerh Staniland 60 - Joiner
Mary Staniland 60
Richd Staniland 15
Cathrine Staniland 5

1851 England Census
Name: Mary Staniland
Age: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1780
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Jeremiah Staniland
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Maltby
Ecclesiastical parish: York
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Landbeck Park

Registration district: Rotherham
Sub-registration district: Wath
Household Members: Name Age
Jeremiah Staniland 70 - Joiner; Norwell, Nottinghamshire
Mary Staniland 71
Catherine Staniland 15 - London, Middlesex


birth: 26 Oct 1807
residence: Nottingham, England
parents: Jeremiah Staniland, Mary

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Jane Staniland
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 22 Nov 1807
baptism/christening place: OLLERTON,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
birth date: 26 Oct 1807
father's name: Jeremiah Staniland
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: P01099-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 95047


residence: Nottingham, England
parents: Richd. Staniland, Elizth.

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Jeremiah Staniland
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 19 Nov 1780
baptism/christening place: NORWELL AND CARLTON ON TRENT,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
father's name: Richd. Staniland
mother's name: Elizth.
indexing project (batch) number: C06239-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 504076

This is the closest I can come to Richard.

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Richard Dawson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 15 Aug 1847
baptism/christening place: Mottisfont, Hampshire, England
father's name: William Dawson
mother's name: Jane
indexing project (batch) number: I03960-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596211

The above fits with the birth reg'n Lindsey found for Richard Dalton.

I've been looking at the image of the 1851 that Choccy found. It actually is Dalson. Son William is born in Maltby, Yorkshire, and this looks like him.



record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: William Henry Davis
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 30 Mar 1845
baptism/christening place: Maltby, (near Rothertham), York, England
father's name: William Davis
mother's name: Jane
indexing project (batch) number: I00813-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6343984

Happy New Year and many thanks to each of you for your guidance and support in trying to find my great grand father.
I am now focused on trying to find the brith certificate for my grandfather Richard Davis whom it would appear was born in Dunbridge/Dundridge in July 1842/1845.
There should be information on his father William Davis on that certificate.
I was advised that that the London and Southwestern Railway actually covered the counties of Hants, Wilts, Somerset, Devon, Dorset and Surrey and as Lindsey indicated above he might have been a porter somewhere before moving to Montisfont.
Best wishes

Richard

Choccy/Lindsey/Ozibird
I really appreciate your interest

Wording on certificate is stationmaster and we did extensive searches in Railway records but never found William.
The information on Richard is correct (he is WIlliam's son)
I understand Dunbridge is about 20 miles from Brockenhuirst which is in the Forest of Dean. Apparrently Comyns published a book which covers life in that area in 1800's and has lots of names. I am trying to get this data. I have found one William in Brockenhurst in 1818 but no record of his marriage or chidlren
This has proved to be qjuite a challenge.
My own father Richard died in 1943 a few months before I was born. I ws able to trace him and his father also Richard (who married Sarah) but nothing on WIlliam. Best wishes Richard

Oh well, it got the blood racing for a few seconds.

Thanks, Choccy.

Ozi

afraid to say that Jane Dalton married Thomas Clark -


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Jane Dalton
Spouse Name: Thomas Clark
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 02 Sep 1855
Parish: St George the Martyr
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Dalton
Spouse Father Name: George Clark

Goodness me, Choccy & Lindsey, you've done some great detective work. Looks like you've hit pay dirt.

Is this a possibility?

Marriages Sep 1855
CLARK Thomas St Geo Sk 1d 158
Dalton Jane St. Geo. Sk 1d 158
Davis Elizabeth St Geo Sk 1d 158
Davis William St Geo Sq 1d 158

The district St Geo Sk is an alternative name for St George Southwark.
>>>>> "The volume 1d is not valid for district St George Hanover Square in the year 1855 and therefore there may be an error in the GRO index or in the transcription. " - freebmd


Deaths Sep 1853
Dalton William George St George Southwark 1d 100

could this be her in 1861 ?


1861 England Census about Jane Davis
Name: Jane Davis
[Jane Staniland]
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary Staniland
Gender: Female
Where born: Allerton, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Maltby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Rotherham
Sub-registration district: Maltby
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Staniland 80
Jane Davis 46 widow
Catherine Staniland 26
Richard Davis 13
Mathew Cousin 20
George Alexander 23
View
Original
Record

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I really want this to be him !

Births Sep 1847 (>99%)
Dalton Richard Romsey 7 171

I keep being drawn to this one - I can't find them on any other census - perhaps someone else can


1851

DALTON, William Head Married M 35 1816 Station Agent
Grimstone
Yorkshire VIEW
DALTON, Jane Wife Married F 37 1814
Ollerton
Nottinghamshire VIEW
DALTON, William Son M 6 1845
Maltbey
Yorkshire VIEW
>>>>>DALTON, Richard Son Unmarried M 3 1848
Mottisfont
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1672 Folio:
14 Page:
20

Registration District:
Stockbridge Sub District:
Broughton Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
West Dean Municipal Borough:
Address:
Station, Hampshire, West Dean County:
Hampshire

here is Richard in 1911 with a second wife - it might be interesting to see his father's stated occupation in 1895


DAVIS, Richard Head Married M 66 1845 Pensioned Messenger Of The Great Seal Dunbridge Hants VIEW
DAVIS, Sarah Elizabeth Wife Married
16 years F 57 1854 London Westminster VIEW
BURGESS, Dorothy May Servant Single F 17 1894 Servant Domestic Lydd Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4810 Reference:
RG14PN4810 RG78PN207 RD71 SD1 ED5 SN38

Registration District:
Eastbourne Sub District:
Westham Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Willingdon

Address:
St Moritz Church Street Willingdon County:
Sussex



possible marriage -

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
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BIRD Henry St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 854
>>>>>>Davis Richard St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 854
>>>>>>Perry Sarah Elizabeth St Geo H Sq 1a 854
Tracey Annie Kennedy St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 854

What exactly is the wording for fathers occupation on the certificate ?
Does it actually say Dunbridge, in order to attain station master you have to start as porter and work up, then the job was there for life, from what I can see the branch line was only opened 1866, so he would need to have worked on a main line before that ?
Often father's occupations were embellished so he could just have easily been a clerk or guard absolutely anywhere.