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Hi I'm trying to find out the mother of Ellen Bowman, born 1903/1904. Also wife of Thomas Bowman, born 1880. Thomas was born in St Georges; Southwark, London, England. I have him in the 1891 and 1901 living in Lambeth. Thank you.

It would help if you could post the birth record from freebmd

birth record for ellen? will have a quick look.

Have you tried to find his wife's name from a marriage record on freebmd?

No Ellen Bowman of approx age with anyone named Thomas Bowman on 1911.....apart from one in Penrith

Think I found the christening as 23 dec 1903?? So that poss means she could have been a bit older than I originally thought?

1901 - just as a point of reference

Name: Thomas Bowman
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Bowman
Mother's name: Frances Bowman
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, London, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church First
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 216
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowman 60
Frances Bowman 42
Thomas Bowman 20 Occ: Packer - Warehouse
Grace Bowman 18
Robert Bowman 16
Frances Bowman 10
Edward Bowman 7

If you found the christening, it should include her mother's first name.........

Please also tell us where it occurred, which would be useful.........

Sorry to be a pain, fairly new to all this!

You're not a pain.......

If it is the correct christening then its also Ellen, just a bit confused as ellen died very young so thought had a year of birth right but obviously not?? iIf you search with mothers name also and a wider year of birth does anything show in 1911?

Unfortunately, 1911 search doesn't work the same as Ancestry....can't specify relationships.

When and where did she die?

Are you now saying that the christening may not be for the person you are trying to research?

I think it must be correct, only a year out. I thought 1904 and christening is 23 dec 1903 so quite close. The christening was in Walham Green, London. The Ellen I'm talking of died in 1931, after marrying frederick j cocklin and having 2 daughters, ivy lillian and florence. Her daughters were both born in Fulham, they were only 2 & 4 when she died so Im guessing that is where she died also.

For ref death of Ellen

Deaths Mar 1931
Cocklin Ellen aged 27 Fulham 1a 470

Is her father named on her marriage cert?

Just for INFO

Deaths Mar 1931 (>99%)
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Cocklin Ellen 27 Fulham 1a 470
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Marriages Sep 1926 (>99%)
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Bowman Ellen Cocklin Fulham 1a 855
Cocklin Frederick J Bowman Fulham 1a 855

Yes her father is named as thomas bowman on marriage cert.

Thank you both! Now I just need to find thomas and ellens marriage.

Was an occupation given for Thomas on the marriage cert?

Who were the witnesses?

Christening for ref

Name: Ellen Bowman
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1903
Baptism Date: 23 Dec 1903
Father's name: Thomas Frederick Bowman occ Coal Carman
Mother's name: Ellen Bowman
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walham Green
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham

Born 3 Dec 1903

There is another child on the image christened on the same day to the same parents
Frederick Thomas Bowman born 10 Dec 1901

Can't quite read the address think it is 147 Lillie Road