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Hi folks, trying to find details of my 4xgreat grandfather Richard Tennant birth c1791 lancashire / manchester who married Mary Aneley birth c1791 and had at least 11 children including my 3x grandfather Walton tennant b1830 Manchester d1886 Manchester, who's widow and some children emigrated to Chicago. Seems ridiculous that I cannot find any further details for Richard & Mary seeing as there are so many records for their children. any help is much appreciated. I Have extensive info on both the Tennant and Leicester family with some certificates and photographs.

Thanks,

Mark.

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Manchester is a large area with many parishes, most of which are not searchable on-line. The above website is free to search, and may have some information of use. Otherwise have you tried the beta site of familysearch.org?

1881 - for reference

Walton TENNANT Head M Male 51 Manchester, Lancashire, England Engine Fitter
Eliza TENNANT Wife M Female 48 Pontefract, York, England
Richard TENNANT Son U Male 25 Bolton, Lancashire, England Time Keeper (Manager)
John TENNANT Son U Male 17 Sheerness, Kent, England Photographer App
Charles TENNANT Son U Male 15 Sheerness, Kent, England Engine Fitter App
Walter TENNANT Son U Male 14 Sheerness, Kent, England Glass Cutter App
Arthur TENNANT Son U Male 11 Sheerness, Kent, England Scholar
William TENNANT Son U Male 7 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 14 Varley St
Census Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341958
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4013 / 38
Page Number 17

WALTON TENNANT Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 21 OCT 1832 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Parents:
Father: RICHARD TENNANT Family
Mother: MARY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

WALTON TENNANT Pedigree
Male Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZA BRADBURY Family
Marriage: 06 DEC 1855 St Stephen,Salford, , Lancashire, England

You state Richard Tennant bc.1791 Lancashire/Manchester. However, the 1841 Census for Manchester shows Richard was not born in Lancashire. Under 'Born in County' it states N for no.

Annette

Ages on 1841 Census were rounded down and so Richard could have been born between 1787 and 1791. Mary is shown as born in Lancashire and familysearch pilot site shows:

Mary Aneley bp.20/10/1788 Broughton in Furness, dau. of John and Anne.

Two possibilities for Richard are:

Richard Tennant bp.10/10/1787 Wakefield, Yorkshire son of Richard and Clamentia (? - as transcribed, suspect this should read Clementina).

Richard bp.1/3/1789 Bossall, Yorkshire son of Richard and Sarah.

As one of Richard and Mary's daughters was Ann Clementina bp.24/4/1817 Manchester suspect Richard may well have been the one baptised in Wakefield. Clementina was not a common name.

Annette

hi, thanks everyone for the replies, I still cannot get concrete evidence that links Richard and Mary as parents of Walton, in respect of if Richard was from Yorkshire. I also have birth records from some of their children including John and Mary, both of whom have the middle name of Aneley, confirming my Richard and mary (Aneley) as their parents but nothing else. Thanks annette for the info about ages being rounded down on the 1841 census, I didn't know that. I too thought that Mary might have been born in Broughton in Furness but still no evidence of that Mary linked with Richard.

PS family search beta has records of births to Richard and Mary both in Manchester (with middle name aneley) and in Skipton. The dates conflict with baptisms taking place at the same time so likely that they were two different couples otherwise they would have been constantly back and forward between Manchester & Skipton and seeing as there appeared to be triplets in John, Samuel & Richard Jr that would seem even more unlikely with the sheer number of children involved.

PS found this record at Lancashire online parish clerks;

Marriage: 5 Jan 1854 St Bartholomew, Salford, Lancashire, England
Samuel Nelson Tennant - 26 Mechanic Bachelor of Union St Salford
Hannah Entwisle - 26 Spinster of Lower Broughton Manchester
Groom's Father: Richard Tennant, Book keeper
Bride's Father: William Entwisle, Manufacturer
Witness: James Kenyon; Mary Kenyon
Married by Registrar's Cert by: James Moore
Register: Marriages 1846 - 1869, Page 26, Entry 52
Source: LDS Film 1786463

(and mean't John, Samuel & James previously)

Tennant, Skipton - 1851 Richard is a sawyer from Hawes Yorkshire.

The sons are not triplets. They were just baptised together. 1841 census has them as different ages.

Ozi



Update: For reference.

1841 England Census
Name: Walton Tennant
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Rusholme Road

Occupation:

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Tennant 50 - Cl[erk]; not born in county.
Mary Tennant 50
Richard Tennant 25 - Machinist
Ann Tennant 20
Mary A Tennant 20
Elizabeth Tennant 20
Ellen H Tennant 15
John A Tennant 15 - Machinist Ap
Samuel Tennant 13
Walton Tennant 11
James Tennant 8

Mark when did the family go to Chicago? Which ones stayed in England?

Just trying to work backwards.

Ozi

OK, going off on a tangent.

This bloke is a son of Richard & Clementina too. He's also in Chorlton.

Askham Eyre Tennant
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 04 Oct 1800
residence: York, England
parents: Richard Tennant, Clementina Eyre

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Askham Eyre Tennant
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Oct 1803
baptism/christening place: SAINT JOHN, WAKEFIELD, YORK, ENGLAND
birth date: 04 Oct 1800
father's name: Richard Tennant
mother's name: Clementina Eyre
indexing project (batch) number: P00498-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 98541

Marriages Mar 1848
BALE Sarah Chorlton 20 121
Hughes Martha Chorlton 20 121
JOHNSON Alice Chorlton 20 121
MOSLEY William Chorlton 20 121
Shaw William Chorlton 20 121
TENNANT Askham Eyre Chorlton 20 121 <<<<<<<<<<<<<

I'm going to go looking for him. Ozi


Update: No, looks as if Chorlton bloke is a younger relation.

1841 England Census
Name: Askem Tenant
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Shudehill

Occupation: Surgeon's App

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Market Street
Household Members: Name Age
Askem Tenant 15
Maria Fisher 20 - F.S.
Sophian Thompson 13 - F.S.

Hi Ozibird, Walton died around 1886 in Manchester and as far as I can gather, his son Richard went to Chicago in 1887 with Walton's widow Eliza following with other children in 1887/88. I can only confirm Charles Thomas Tennant that stayed as he was my great great grandfather. Some reportedly made money but lost it in the wall st. crash. Walton & Eliza's son Arthur married into the famous Weld family (marrying Ella Mae) and living in De Witt, Clinton, Illinois. I have photos of Eliza and her sons taken at a chicago photographers. I have so much info it is so frustrating not be able to progress beyond Richard and Mary. It looks like Richard, John, Arthur, Walter & william (married De Lora Maclamore from Kentucky) all went to USA with only CT staying in Horwich. Mark.

Sorry, my slip-up. Thought you meant Mary, wife of Richard, went to Chicago.

"I still cannot get concrete evidence that links Richard and Mary as parents of Walton" If you have followed the census for this family, why do you doubt Walton's parentage? You have found his baptism, and his family in 1841.

" I too thought that Mary might have been born in Broughton in Furness" - that is what is recorded for her on the 1861 census when she is living with daughters, Ann & Eliza. Update: also 1871.

Has this child any close connection to Walton? She is living/staying with another two siblings of Walton's.

1861 England Census
Name: Louisa Tennant
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: United States <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Chorlton Upon Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen H Tennant 35
John A Tennant 34 - widowed
Louisa Tennant 5

hmmm very interesting, will have a look........

She's with Mary & Eliza in 1871.

1871 England Census
Name: Louisa Tennant
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: United States
Civil Parish: Chorlton On Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Clifford St [In 1861 they're at 23 Clifford St. I know in the mid 1800s a lot of street numbering was formalized in London. Perhaps that's so of Manchester as well, and they're still living in the same house.]

Occupation: House Assistant

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza C Tennant 30 - Dressmaker
Mary Tennant 82 - Annuitant
Louisa Tennant 14
William C Hardy 46 - lodger
Enock Gerald 31 - lodger

Fantastic, you are a star! I know Walton spent time in the USA which is probably why he disappears from some census. I got that from an account of Arthur his son from an Illinois publication;

(Was for Ella Tennant's mums obituary - wrongly shows Walton as Walter but could have been a nickname I guess)

Mrs. Weld became the mother of three children: Nellie, who died at the age of fifteen months; Fannie, who lives with her mother; and Ella May, wife of Arthur G. Tennant, who is a clerk in the employ of the Illinois Central Railroad at Clinton. He was born in Lancastershire, England, and is a son of Walter and Eliza (Bradbury) Tennant. His father lived for some years in America, but died in England, and his mother, who is a native of Yorkshire, now makes her home in Chicago. They had nine children, of whom seven are still living. To Arthur G. Tennant and wife have been born two children: William Weld and Fannie Evelyn. They have a fine large residence on the corner of North Jackson avenue and West Johnson street, Clinton, which was erected by Mr. Tennant at a cost of thirty-five hundred dollars, and with them resides Mrs. Weld, who now rents her home in that city. She still owns the farm on one hundred and eight-six acres of highly developed land in Texas township, left to her by Mr. Weld, which she rents. In addition to this she owns one hundred acres near Maroa, which is also rented. These farms are well-improved, there being good two-story residences and new barns upon both.