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the only other thing I found was a baptism record for LILLY ROSE THURLOW
1898 ST PETERS HAMMERSMITH but the birth date looks like 1881 but unsure

Jan, not managed to dig anything useful up yet about eliza.

Meanwhile, why not contact these people if you want to pursue Workhouse records?

http://www.suffolkfhs.co.uk/

Someone there may be able to point you in the right direction.

I'm not finding a suitable single Eliza in the 1901. There are a few Eliza Thurlow marriages on FreeBMD but it would be hard to pinpoint which one was hers (if any) without sending for all of them.

Jan, you wouldn't have believed what mine was like - bet she could have taught Lily a few tricks! ;-)

What a grandmother!!!

Yes, have just seen that 1911 when she appears to be still calling herself
Lily R Munns (single?) despite:

Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
BLACK Herbert Newmarket 3b 1153
Munns Lily Rose Newmarket 3b 1153

THANK YOU

Jan, found this on Google:

http://www.suffolkchurches.co.uk/stjbaptipswich.htm

"About half a mile east of the church, along Freehold Road and at the corner of Bloomfield Street, stood the St John's children's home. This must have been the saddest place in the parish. It was actually the Ipswich Poor Law Union workhouse for pauper children. This was not an unusual kind of institution in more urban areas, but it was the only one of its kind in Suffolk, and as such seems to have been the place where poor orphans from all over the county ended up. Built in 1879, it had room for 130 children, and eventually closed in 1930. The site is now covered by sheltered housing."

I don't know anything at all about Suffolk history. I wonder if there's a history society that might know what happened to records from there?

No and family history was taboo. on the 1911 census she is Lily Munns in Cropthorne Worcs. and her girls are in an orphanage in Malvern I could never work out why she moved such a way unless Eliza was around but clutching at straws.

I can't find any other appropriate marriage record for another Lily Thurlow, and the unmarried ones in Suffolk in 1901 census are with different parents to that 1881 census.

No and family histor was taboo.

It's possible, Jan.

If she'd been orphaned and had no documents, then perhaps she mightn't have really known much about her background? Did she ever mention any brothers or sisters?

I hadn't thought of that perhaps she wanted to forget her start in life?

Please can you findher after 1900?

There is this birth record, but it's not Lily Rose:

Surname Given Name District Volume Page
Births Dec 1880
THURLOW Lilly Bosmere 4a 640

The district Bosmere is in the county of Suffolk, it covers Stonham A.

There isn't any other Lily born Suffolk around that time that I can find.

Edit: Postings crossed - just seen Jan's comment re gran's birth not registered. How would gran have known?

thank you yes I do doubt it but from before 1900 . Grandma always said her birth was never registered and her parents weren't married which is why I wanted to follow up these sister.

Chris - think your 1901 is spot on because a Charles Gilbert was a marriage witness.

Jan - when you say it was your cousin, did you mean that's your cousin's tree on ancestry? If so, do you have any reason to doubt that they have the correct Lily Rose?

1901 Census (not sure here)

EDWARDS, Sophia Head Married F 42 1859
Quy
Cambridgeshire VIEW
EDWARDS, Alice Daughter Single F 12 1889
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
EDWARDS, Herbert Son Single M 10 1891
Soham
Cambridgeshire VIEW
EDWARDS, Minnie Daughter Single F 6 1895
Barrow
Suffolk VIEW
GILBERT, Charles Boarder Single M 25 1876 Stableman (Racing )
VIEW
MUNNS, Frank Boarder Married M 23 1878 Hostler
Exning
Suffolk VIEW
MUNNS, Lily Boarder Married F 22 1879
Exning
Suffolk VIEW

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1541 Folio:
15 Page:
21

Registration District:
Newmarket Sub District:
Newmarket Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Exning St Martins

Civil Parish:
Exning (Suffolk) Municipal Borough:
Address:
Vine Terrace, Exning (Suffolk) County:
Cambridgeshire

Thanks Andy but she was Munn then

Yes I think that's my cousin