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Searching for Horace Spilling, I have found him on the 1911 census but it has trancribed his year of birth as 1858 but his age in prison in 1911 is 83 so something is wrong there.The Horace I am looking for was a musician the same as the one in prison but born c1888 he married in 1909 a Katie Oconner his brother Henry was a witness his father was Alfred Spilling. Can anyone help? Can I find out what the horace in prison did, he seems a great age to be a prisoner if he was 83. I can only find a birth reg in 1888 4b 150 Norwich can anyone find his parents for me?

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
INSTITUTION SPILLING HORACE M 1858 53 Isle of Wight Hampshire

Someone has made a slip up. The Horace shown to be in prison is recorded as 53 not 83

It is of course perfectly possible that a transcription error has occurred.

thanks but when you look at the census it says 83 so I am confused.

Is this your Horace's birth?

Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
SPILLING Horace Norwich 4b 150

What is the birthplace of the chap in prison?

Name: Horace Spilling
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Feb 1889
Baptism/Christening Place: St. George-Tombland, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1888
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Henry Spilling
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Maria
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02800-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1596459
Reference Number: item 30 p 91
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Norfolk, but its still 30 years out at least I am looking for a musican born 1888 norfolk this lad in prison was born either 1828 or 1858

Thanks but father names should be Alfred it says on his marraige in 1909 and brother henry as a witness

1901 England Census
about Horace Spellings Name: Horace Spellings (SPILLING)
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich

Civil Parish: Vessels
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St Mary Redcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: HMS Formidable

Thanks that looks promising

1891??


Name: Horace Spilling
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's name: Henry Spilling
Mother's name: Maria Spilling
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: St Peter Mancroft
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Mancroft
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Mancroft
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Spilling 29
Maria Spilling 24
Henry Spilling 6
Alfred Spilling 4
Horace Spilling 3
Herbert Spilling 7/12

N.B. I note that on the 1909 marriage certificate Horace's age is indicated as 24. Perhaps he was no so good when it came to remembering dates and names (Lol)

This looks like the marriage of the parents who appear in the 1891 census:

Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
Briggs Maria Depwade 4b 373
Spilling Henry Depwade 4b 373

Could someone have mixed up rthe names on the marraige then becusae it says father Alfred Bootmaker address something like Freeling st

British Army Service Records 1760-1913 THIS IS YOUR MAN RECORD
First name(s): Horace STATES HE IS A MUSICIAN

Last name: SPILLING

Calculated year of birth: 1888

Parish of birth: Trinity

Town of birth: Norwich

County of birth: Norfolk

Age at attestation: 15 years 1 months

Attestation date: 27 February 1903

Attestation corps: Gloucestershire Regiment

Attestation soldier number: 6768

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 5974 / 63

Name: Alfred Spilling
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Feb 1889
Baptism/Christening Place: St. George-Tombland, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Birth Date: 22 Aug 1886
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Henry Spilling
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Maria
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02800-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1596459
Reference Number: item 30 p 91
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Wow thanks Christina at least this isn't the one in prison thanks a bunch any idea who his parents are?

Actually on the records it says his parents are Harry Spilling and Maria!

Well there you go its a bit annoying but maybe Alfred was known as Harry or vica versa.

Actually the military record that Christina found does not rule out that the Horace in prison in 1911 was not your man. On his 1909 marriage certificate Horace 's occupation is given as a musician. Were he still in the military in 1909 his occupation should have stated either his military rank or that he was a bandsman rather than a musician. There is no record of a Horace Spilling receiving an army pension or WW1 medals so I am guessing that he was not in the army at that time.

Have you found his wife on the 1911 census?

No actually not thought of that being a bit cold and tired thanks will try that now unless you have her at your finger tips.

No can't see her on there.

Like yourself I cannot spot her in 1911 under the surname Spilling (Any forename).

Neither can I spot a death for Horace in England or Wales.

Do you know anything else about him or her.