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Angela

Angela Report 7 Dec 2010 21:23

Im trying to find the parents of Thomas Robinson 1808. I believe he married a Sarah. John and Sarah had a son Thomas born in Beckermet Cumberland 1829 I dont know if there where any other siblings ? Thomas then married Margaret ? they lived in Raglan St Barrow in Furness.
Regards Angela

Angela

Angela Report 7 Dec 2010 21:35

hi Sara
How did you find this ? Angela

Angela

Angela Report 7 Dec 2010 21:40

sorry Sara
ive written the post wrong John Robinson and Sarah where thomas parents but I want t know if anyone can tell me about them and possibly John parents ? Sorry if Ive confus ed you

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 7 Dec 2010 22:08

So is this the son?

1871 England Census
Name: Thomas Robinson
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret Robinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Beckermont, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Dalton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Georges
Town: Barrow
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 37 Raglan St

Occupation: Railway labourer

Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Dalton
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Robinson 42
Margaret Robinson 40
Thomas Robinson 8
George P Robinson 26 - brother; unmarried; engine fireman; Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 7 Dec 2010 22:13

Looks like John died and Sarah remarried.

1851 England Census
Name: George P Robinson
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Pearson
Mother's name: Sarah Pearson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Kirkby Ireleth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Marshside

Occupation: scholar

Registration district: Ulverstone
Sub-registration district: Dalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
George Pearson 50 - Lab at the slate works
Sarah Pearson 46
James Robinson 13 - step son
George P Robinson 8
Mary A Robinson 6
Jane Pearson 4
Henry Pearson 2

All children born Kirkby Ireleth. George & Mary Robinson look as if they might have been Pearson, but before the marriage, especially with George's middle name.

Marriages Jun 1845
Brookbank John Ulverstone 25 203
Johnson Isabella Ulverstone 25 203
Massicks Thomas Ulverstone 25 203
Muncaster Ferdinand Ulverstone 25 203
Newton Thomas Ulverstone 25 203
Park Mary Ulverstone 25 203
Pearson George Ulverstone 25 203 <<<<<
Robinson Sarah Ulverstone 25 203 <<<<<
Savage Ann Ulverston 25 203

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 7 Dec 2010 22:27

1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Robinson
Age: 73
Estimated birth year: abt 1768 [Abt 1828]
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Kirkby Ireleth
Hundred: Lonsdale (North of the Sands)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Irelethfleet Chapels

Registration district: Ulverstone
Sub-registration district: West Broughton
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Robinson 36 - Independent
Thomas Robinson 73 [13 on image]
William Robinson 10
Ellena Robinson 8
Elisabeth Robinson 6
James Robinson 4 <<<<

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Dec 2010 22:37

just to clarify - is this your Thomas and Margaret?

Marriage: 19 Jun 1855 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
Thomas Robinson - full age Labourer Bachelor of Barrow
Margaret Eccleston - full age Spinster of New Parkhouse
Groom's Father: John Robinson, Labourer
Bride's Father: Robert Eccleston, Miner
Witness: George Kitchin; Eleanor Robinson
Married by Banns by: Thomas P: Morgan, Off. Min.
Register: Marriages 1855 - 1857 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 3, Entry 5
Source: LDS Film 1040305

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 7 Dec 2010 22:38

IGI Individual Record
THOMAS ROBINSON
Christening: 11 MAY 1828 Saint Bridget Beckermet, Cumberland, England
Parents:
Father: JOHN ROBINSON
Mother: SARAH
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: C043022 Dates: 1813 - 1870

???? EDIT: I'm not too sure about these so be careful.
Results for: British Isles

Father: John Robinson, Mother: Sarah
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C007155
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International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 2
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1. WM. ROBINSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 MAR 1831 All Saints, Bolton Le Moors, Lancashire, England
2. ELLEN ROBINSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 JAN 1834 All Saints, Bolton Le Moors, Lancashire, England

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Dec 2010 22:40

children?? especially the last one listed

Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1855
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROBINSON Robert Dalton Barrow ECCLESTON D/8/79
Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROBINSON Sarah Dalton Barrow D/10/141
Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1862
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROBINSON Thomas Dalton Barrow ECCLESTON D/13/418
Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROBINSON George Pearson Dalton Barrow ECCLESTON D/16/198

Angela

Angela Report 8 Dec 2010 18:35

Hi Ozibird
Thank you for the information I was told that my gr grandfather was a railway worker from beckermet so the information you gave is correct thank so much
regards Angela

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Dec 2010 19:48

If you buy George Pearson Robinson's birth cert you'll get Sarah's maiden name. If you buy her marriage cert to George Pearson you should get her maiden name and her father's name & occupation.

Looking at Sarah's place of birth - 1851 - Hale, 1861 - Faile (widow & school mistress), 1871 - Halle (school mistress (mixed school) ), 1881 - Haile (formerly school teacher) I believe she was born in Haile which is only about 3 km from Beckermet.

Ozi

Angela

Angela Report 8 Dec 2010 20:13

Hi Ozibird
Can you tell me when Sarah and John Robinson got married and also when Joh n died ive been trying to find the marriage but cant go back further than 1837 .
Regards Angela

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Dec 2010 20:57

See my idea of Sarah's birthplace in my last post. However I've found no marriage on IGI.

With John Robinson being a very common name it is difficult. It looks like James may be the last of his children by Sarah. Either or neither of the two deaths below could be John's death as it looks as if James was born 1836 or early 1837. Therefore James may have died before registration.

Deaths Sep 1837
ROBINSON John Ulverston 25 113
Deaths Dec 1838
ROBINSON John Ulverstone 25 127

Angela

Angela Report 8 Dec 2010 22:01

Hi Ozibird
I Understand ts difficult as its a common name. From the informaton given Ive plotted the famiy from 1851until 1891 Do you have acess to 1911 census. Ive got Thomasborn 1829 married to Eleanor Taylor in 1891 they Have Thomas, Henry, Margaret Eleanor , Edith as the children living in 37
Raglan Street Barrow . Regards Angela

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 8 Dec 2010 22:28

i would guess this is the 1837 death (Kirby Ireleth is Ulverston district)

Burial: 20 Sep 1837 St Cuthbert, Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England
John Robinson -
Age: 33
Abode: Chapels
Buried by: C Graham, Vicar
Register: Burials 1813 - 1838 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 71, Entry 565
Source: LDS Film 1040307

and the 1838 one (coniston also ulverston district)

Burial: 22 Nov 1838 St Andrew, Coniston, Lancashire, England
John Robinson -
Age: 7 mth
Abode: Forge
Buried by: J W Harden
Register: Bishops Transcripts Burials 1813 - 1859, Page 36, Entry 287
Source: LDS Film 1040311

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 8 Dec 2010 22:32

you don't need to buy a birth cert for George Pearson Ronbison's mother maiden name. I gave it you above as recorded on cumbriabmd - = Eccleston

also probable siblings Robert, Sarah & Thomas

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 8 Dec 2010 22:51

James' baptism - abode matches the 1837 death of John age 33

Baptism: 7 May 1837 St Cuthbert, Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England
James Robinson - son of John Robinson & Sarah
Abode: Chapels
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: C Graham, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1838 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 150, Entry 1202
Source: LDS Film 1040307

Ellen

Baptisms: 9 Dec 1832 St Cuthbert, Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England
Ellen Robinson - dau of John Robinson & Sarah
Abode: Wallend
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: C Graham, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1838 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 122, Entry 976
Source: LDS Film 1040307

Jane

Baptisms: 19 Apr 1835 St Cuthbert, Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England
Jane Robinson - dau of John Robinson & Sarah
Abode: Wallend
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: C Graham, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1838 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 138, Entry 1099
Source: LDS Film 1040307

Angela

Angela Report 8 Dec 2010 23:03

Hi Lancashire Ann
Thank you for the surname of Sarah sorry I must be thick thought that it was the place Eccleston. I am a pensioner that my excuse anyway thanks for the info on the children of Sarah and John I only had Thomas who was bornin 1829 .Do you know hen and where they were married. I know John and Sarah wee born abt 1808 . Alsodo you have access to th 1911 census. I would like to know wher the family where living I suspect they could have still been in Raglan Street. Thanks for your help Angela

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 8 Dec 2010 23:08

Sorry I do not have any access to census info

the sites I used to find the info I gave you were

lan-opc.org.uk

and

cumbriabmd.org.uk

which is a new site which at the moment only covers Barrow but most birth entries provide mother's maiden name

I can see why if you are not used to the bmd sites, you could think the Eccleston was a place name as there are a few around with that name

Angela

Angela Report 8 Dec 2010 23:15

Hi Lancashire Ann
Thanks for your reply im signing off now im tired
Thank Again Angela