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The Mitchell Library in Glasgow holds the records of claims made for poor relief in Glasgow. The records are indexed but you have to search in person (I don't think they offer a service to search the records on your behalf but I could be wrong). These records can be particularly useful when searching Irish ancestors as they can give information regarding County of birth and parents names. They also may list children living with the claimant and also those married and how many children they have.

I think that Ellen was thinking that if the Mary on the 1861 census was a widow that she may have claimed poor relief. Claiming relief was often a way for poorer people to obtain either medical treatment or access to the Poorhouse if they were infirm.

Michell Library does a search for you for a fee.

Mary seems to get younger in this census:-

1871 Scotland Census
about Mary Turley
Name: Mary Turley
Age: 70
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/2
Registration district: High Church
Civil Parish: Glasgow College
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 136 High Street
ED: 37
Household schedule number: 86
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1871_126
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Turley 70
Joseph Turley 24
William Henderson 30

1851
Name: Cathrine Hargitan
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relationship: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Parish Number: 882
Civil Parish: Troqueer
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Millgreen
Occupation: Ag Lab
ED: 22
Page: 45 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 205
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1851_214
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Hargitan 30
Laughlan Hargitan 24
Betty Hargitan 32
Mary Hargitan 24
Cathrine Hargitan 17
Bridget Hargitan 25
Maryann Himan 5
Cathrine Himan 4

If these are the details for Bernard Turley, can he really be the correct one?

Marriage:-

29/05/1831 TURLEY BERNARD MARY HUGHES/FR776 M PAISLEY HIGH CHURCH /RENFREW 573/01 0040 0110


Death/Burial (in Catholic Registers on Scotlandspeople)
06/03/1858 TURLEY BERNARD M 82 GLASGOW, OLD DALBETH CEMETERY
died of old age.

James is supposedly born Ireland re census but his parents were married in Scotland. I suppose that they could have returned to Ireland for the births of their sons? I am unable to locate a birth in Scotland for James.

Brill MB. Fantastic stuff and thanks. A lot of money then. Not surprised. This family has a lot of accountants and the like in it. Not like my Ag labs and cotton weavers.

I did have Catherine Hargeton's death. Maybe she left a will too. Will look.

I will send for that marriage cert to confirm father of Allan John is John Allan, otherwise all this lot is rubbish, and not worth the risk after all your hard work.

So grateful for your efforts. Will get those wills now, and let you know the results.

Thanks.

Margaret

Please, someone, remind me how I get copies of wills. The ones identified are clearly relevant. I just can't remember how to order them.

Margaret

Sorry to keep on about Bernard & Mary but this would appear to be the death of their son James b 1834 which would mean that this couple cannot be the ones that you are looking for.

1 1855 TURLEY JAMES mmn HUGHES M age 21 HIGH CHURCH GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/02 1009

Yes MB, I think we must have the wrong Bernard and son James.

Ellen, the 1851 census is possible if the ages of Catherine and Bridget were the wrong way round.

Fighting with those wills.

Not that it is important or about this thread.....but I sent you a pm a couple of days ago and it still shows as unopened ??

jax

Sorry Jax, don't know why I missed it. Now replied.

Wills ordered from York.

I haven't ignored people's comments. No idea if the John Allan McD in the Royal Marines is mine, the record on FMP doesn't give any info. John Allan doesn't show up on the CWGC website as a WW1 death. There is a John A who is invalided out of the forces in 1902. Could be him. But he died at sea. Hmm. What was he doing at sea? He would have been 54-ish. November 1915. Not found any recorded ships destroyed that day.

No record of death on CWGC site. Is that odd? Should I contact them?

Anybody know if the Royal Navy or Royal Marines or Merchant Navy have records for 1915?