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Lauren

Lauren Report 13 Dec 2010 23:06

Albert Edward Page born 1901 in Shoreditch.

He married Grace Gladys denson in 1927 in Headington.

I'm finding it hard tracing him in the 1901/1911 census, can anyone help?

Thanks

Lauren

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Dec 2010 23:09

Do you have the marriage cert for the name & occupation of his father?

Three possible baptisms on Ancestry

Parents Henry James and Sarah
or Thomas and Lucy
or Thomas Joseph and Susan

How do you know where he was born?

In fact quite a few more roughly about that time

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Dec 2010 09:38

Not what you asked for, but while we're here thought you might like this from 1911:

DENSON, Frederick Charles Head Married
30 years M 53 1858 Journeyman Painter Holywell Eastbourne Sussex VIEW
DENSON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 51 1860 Domestic Littlemore Oxford VIEW
DENSON, Ivor Son Single M 23 1888 Painter's Assistant Cowley St Johns Oxford VIEW
DENSON, Edfwin Son Single M 17 1894 Errand Boy Cowley Oxford VIEW
DENSON, Doris Daughter Single F 21 1890 Laundry Maid Cowley Oxford VIEW
DENSON, Amy Daughter Single F 19 1892 Day Girl Domestic Cowley Oxford VIEW
DENSON, Edith Daughter F 13 1898 School Cowley Oxford VIEW
DENSON, May Daughter F 10 1901 School Cowley Oxford VIEW
DENSON, Gracce Gladys Daughter F 7 1904 School Cowley Oxford VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
8119 Reference:
RG14PN8119 RG78PN412 RD152 SD2 ED8 SN263

Registration District:
Headington Sub District:
St Clement Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Cowley

Address:
Rose Cottages Junction Road Cowley Near Oxford County:
Oxfordshire

Lauren

Lauren Report 14 Dec 2010 14:58

I don't have the marriage certificate, would that be the only way of knowing for sure?

His daughter told me her was born in Shoreditch

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 14 Dec 2010 15:18

Yes,the marriage certificate is the only way.

That being said,this looks like the Shoreditch Albert:
1901 FMP
PAGE, Thomas Head Married M 40 1861 Chair Maker
Gt Hampden
Buckinghamshire
PAGE, Alice Wife Married F 35 1866
Mile End
London
PAGE, Thomas Son Single M 10 1891
City RD
London
PAGE, Lilian Daughter Single F 4 1897
City RD
London
PAGE, George W Son Single M 2 1899
High Wycombe
Buckinghamshire
PAGE, Albert E Son Single M 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Finsbury
London

Registration District:
Shoreditch Sub District:
Shoreditch South Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Shoreditch St Agatha

Civil Parish:
Shoreditch Municipal Borough:
Address:
13d, Dwellings, Broad Street, Shoreditch County:
London


I think Ancestry has his age down as 28 months,so he doesn't pop up there too easily.

Maureen

Lauren

Lauren Report 15 Dec 2010 11:02

Thank you everyone for your input.

Maureen that is him, I have checked! Thank you very much.

Lauren

Lauren Report 15 Dec 2010 11:03

Can anyone find the family on the 1911?

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 15 Dec 2010 11:10

Well here is his mother and siblings....

PAGE, Alice Wife Married
20 years F 46 1865 Charwomen Mile End New Town
PAGE, Lilian Daughter F 14 1897 Corset Making London City Rd L H
PAGE, George William Son M 12 1899 School High Wycombe Bucks
PAGE, Alice Louisa Daughter F 3 1908 London Old Street

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1323 Reference:
RG14PN1323 RG78PN46 RD16 SD1 ED2 SN128

Registration District:
Shoreditch Sub District:
Shoreditch South Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Shoreditch

Address:
8 Mackey Blg County:
London

States she had 6 children and one had died.

Lauren

Lauren Report 15 Dec 2010 11:23

Hmm wonder where he or his father has gone

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 15 Dec 2010 16:22

Here is his baptism record

Name: Albert Edward Page
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1901
Baptism Date: 3 Mar 1901
Father's name: Thomas Page
Mother's name: Alice Louisa Page
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Agatha
Borough: Hackney

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 15 Dec 2010 16:26

And possibly parents marriage

Marriages Jun 1890   (>99%)   
Page Thomas Shoreditch 1c 316      
WILLIS Alice Louisa Shoreditch 1c 316  

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 15 Dec 2010 16:53

And the London record of parents marriage

Name: Alice Louisa Willis
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Spouse Name: Thomas Page
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 08 Jun 1890
Parish: St Mark, Shoreditch
County: London
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Frederick William Willis
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Page

Lauren

Lauren Report 15 Dec 2010 17:17

Thank you TootyFruity!!

Lauren

Lauren Report 15 Dec 2010 17:28

Can anyone find Alice Louisa Willis in any census at all?

Thanks

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 15 Dec 2010 17:37

Here they are in 1891:

PAGE, Thomas Head Married M 30 1861 Farmer Graet (should be Great) Hampden Buckinghamshire
PAGE, Alice L Wife Married F 26 1865 Mile End New Town
PAGE, Thomas Son M 0 (1M) 1891 Shoreditch London

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
243 Folio:
154 Page:
14

Registration District:
Shoreditch Sub District:
Shoreditch South Enumeration District:
19 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Michael

Civil Parish:
Shoreditch Municipal Borough:
Church Address:
16, Victoria Chambers, Paul Street, Shoreditch, Church County:
London

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 15 Dec 2010 17:40

Here she is in 1881:

DARKE, Mary J Head Single F 60 1821 Pricipal Of Ladies Sch Holborn Middlesex
DARKE, Emmeline Sister Single F 56 1825 Pricipal Of Ladies Sch Holborn Middlesex
COPPIN, Emma Governess Single F 47 1834 Musical Governess Camden Town Middlesex
TEALNE, Maria Governess Single F 36 1845 French Governess British Subject Germany
ARMITAGE, Clara T Scholar Single F 17 1864 Scholar Huddersfield Yorkshire
WINDELER, H Maud Scholar Single F 16 1865 Scholar Surbiton Surrey
FLEMING, Gracie S Scholar Single F 18 1863 Scholar
Scotland
FLEMING, Violet S Scholar Single F 16 1865 Scholar Scotland
REED, Victoria M Scholar Single F 16 1865 Scholar Newcastle Northumberland
NEILL, Margaret Scholar Single F 16 1865 Scholar Ireland
BARTLETT, M Beatrice Scholar Single F 15 1866 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire
SARAZIN, Sophie A Scholar Single F 16 1865 Scholar (Foreign) France
GOLBEAR, Lucy Scholar Single F 15 1866 Scholar Nottingham
GILL, Florence S Scholar Single F 16 1865 Scholar St Pancras Middlesex
GILL, Mariane E Scholar Single F 15 1866 Scholar St Pancras Middlesex
BARBER OR BARVER, Julia M Scholar Single F 16 1865 Scholar Kensington Middlesex
MERRIMAN, G E Scholar Single F 15 1866 Scholar Kensington Middlesex
MERRIMAN, Constance Scholar Single F 17 1864 Scholar Kensington Middlesex
WILKINSON, Olive S Servant Single F 28 1853 Ladys Maid Dom Serv Sittingbourne Kent
WILLIS, Emma E Servant Single F 24 1857 Cook Dom Serv Mile End Middlesex (Possible sister)
YATE, Clarissa Servant Single F 22 1859 Parlourmaid Dom Serv Birmingham Warwickshire
FARLEY, Ann E Servant Single F 17 1864 Housemaid Dom Serv Cove Hampshire
>>>>WILLIS, Alice L Servant Single F 16 1865 Housemaid Dom Serv Mile End Middlesex
WILLIAMS, Jane Servant Single F 15 1866 Kitchen Maid Dom Serv Hawley Hampshire

RG number:
RG11 Piece:
663 Folio:
61 Page:
28

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Putney Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Putney Municipal Borough:
Address:
Grove House, Lytton Grove, Putney County:
Surrey

With a possible sister working there too.

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 15 Dec 2010 17:44

1871 possibly

Name: Alice Willis
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Willis
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End
Civil Parish: Christchurch Spitalfields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Spitalfields
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 165 1/2
Frederick Willis 54
Eliza Willis 48
Henry Willis 21
Alfred Willis 21
Samuel Willis 17
Alice Willis 6 
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 505; Folio: 56; Page: 28; GSU roll: 823379.

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 15 Dec 2010 17:51

Possible baptism:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Alice Louisa Willis
Name: Alice Louisa Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1864
Baptism Date: 6 Nov 1864
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Matilda Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of baptisms, P93/CTC1, Item 010

Further details from image give family living at 3 North Place and father's occupation - Bricklayer.

And birth entry:

Name: Alice Louisa Willis
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Whitechapel
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 355

Possible 1871:

WILLIS, Frederick Head M 54 1817 Bricklayer Spitalfields Middlesex
WILLIS, Eliza Wife F 48 1823 Church Servant Limehouse Middlesex
WILLIS, Henry Son M 21 1850 Compositor Mile End New Town Middlesex
WILLIS, Alfred Son M 21 1850 Labourer Mile End New Town Middlesex
WILLIS, Samuel Son M 17 1854 Carpenter Mile End New Town Middlesex
WILLIS, Alice Daughter F 6 1865 Scholar Mile End New Town Middlesex

RG number:
RG10 Piece:
505 Folio:
56 Page:
28

Registration District:
Whitechapel Sub District:
Spitalfields Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Christ Church Municipal Borough:
Address:
Wilkes St, Christ Church County:
London, Middlesex

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 15 Dec 2010 17:53

Parent's marriage:


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Frederick Willis
Name: Frederick Willis
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Spouse Name: Eliza Matilda Read
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 15 May 1842
Parish: Christ Church, Spitalfields
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Willis
Spouse Father Name: William Read
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of marriages, P93/CTC1, Item 023

Further details on the cert state Eliza was a minor, Frederick was of Full Age (21 or over) his occupation was Bricklayer. They were both living at No 27 Montague Street. William Willis was a Silver Smith and William Read was a Painter and Glazier. Their witnesses were William Willis and Eliza Mary Read. Bride and Groom signed with an X.

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 15 Dec 2010 18:02

Cor blimey Frederick and Eliza had a lot of kids...

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Eliza Rosanna Willis
Name: Eliza Rosanna Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1843
Baptism Date: 29 Jan 1843
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Matilda Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of baptisms, P93/CTC1, Item 009
Address - Montague Street, Father's Occupation - Bricklayer

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Frederick William Willis
Name: Frederick William Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1844
Baptism Date: 8 Dec 1844
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Matilda Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of baptisms, P93/CTC1, Item 009
Address - Pelham Street, Father's occupation - Bricklayer

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Mary Elizabeth Willis
Name: Mary Elizabeth Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1847
Baptism Date: 23 May 1847
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Matilda Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of baptisms, P93/CTC1, Item 009
Address - Booth Street, Father's occupation - Labourer

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Alfred James Willis
Name: Alfred James Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1850
Baptism Date: 10 Mar 1850
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Matilda Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of baptisms, P93/CTC1, Item 009
Address - Pelham Street, Father's occupation - bricklayer

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Henry George Willis
Name: Henry George Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1850
Baptism Date: 10 Mar 1850
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Matilda Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of baptisms, P93/CTC1, Item 009
Address - Pelham Street, Father's occupation - bricklayer

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Emma Matilda Willis
Name: Emma Matilda Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1852
Baptism Date: 28 Mar 1852
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Matilda Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Mile End New Town All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, All Saints, Mile End New Town, Register of baptisms, P93/ALL1, Item 001
Address - 1 Lower Pelham Street Father's occupation - Bricklayer
Born on 14th Feb

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Sarah Ann Willis
Name: Sarah Ann Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1852
Baptism Date: 28 Mar 1852
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Matilda Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Mile End New Town All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, All Saints, Mile End New Town, Register of baptisms, P93/ALL1, Item 001
Address - 1 Lower Pelham Street Father's occupation - Bricklayer
Born 14th Feb.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Samuel Robert Willis
Name: Samuel Robert Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1854
Baptism Date: 1 Jan 1854
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Matilda Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of baptisms, P93/CTC1, Item 009
Address - Pelham Street - Father's Occupation - Bricklayer

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Emma Elisabeth Willis
Name: Emma Elisabeth Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1856
Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1856
Father's name: Fredrich Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of baptisms, P93/CTC1, Item 010
Address - 1 Pelham Street - Father's occupation - Bricklayer

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Andrew John Willis
Name: Andrew John Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1859
Baptism Date: 6 Feb 1859
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Matilda Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of baptisms, P93/CTC1, Item 010
Address - 1 Pelham Street - Father's occupation - Bricklayer

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Edward Richard Willis
Name: Edward Richard Willis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1861
Baptism Date: 6 Oct 1861
Father's name: Frederick Willis
Mother's name: Eliza Willis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Spitalfields, Register of baptisms, P93/CTC1, Item 010
Address - 1 Pelham Street - Father's occupation - Bricklayer

OK - now edited with the extra info from the images.

Will look for burials as I'm sure not all of these children survived - in particular Emma Matilda.