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John Nuttall born 1830 Little Lever Lancs.

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Ann

Ann Report 15 Dec 2010 17:54

Yes that is my husbands Great grandparents. The elusive 2

K

K Report 15 Dec 2010 17:45

There is a tree on Ancestry with photos of both Selina and John.

Astra

Astra Report 15 Dec 2010 17:22

I would get the marriage certificate found by safc and find out his father's name and occupation. It is the only way you are ever going to be sure.

Ann

Ann Report 15 Dec 2010 17:21

The surname for 1861 was down as Nuttarble and as there is no other Nuttarble on any census so take it it has been written down wrong which often happens with our surname. It is Nuttles,Nuthall and more.

1861 living in 65 Eight Row. Witton Gilbert

John Head 31 Coal Miner
Solina Spouse 27
John Son 7 born 7/9/1853 Wigan
Isaac Son 3 born 11/11/1856 Usworth Co. Durham
Samuel Son 1 born 28/5/1860

Astra

Astra Report 15 Dec 2010 17:08


Nice find safc.
Ann can you give me the census details please for 1861 because i couldn't find them anywhere.

No it's OK I have found them now. Mistranscribed

NUTTARBLE, John Head Married M 31 1830 Coal Miner
Darcy Lever
Lancashire VIEW
NUTTARBLE, Solina Wife Married F 26 1835
Robtown Moor
Lancashire VIEW
NUTTARBLE, John Son M 7 1854
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
NUTTARBLE, Isaac Son M 3 1858
Cusworth
Durham VIEW
NUTTARBLE, Samuel Son M 1 1860
...
Northumberland VIEW
LISH, Henry Lodger M 17 1844
Bolton
Lancashire VIEW

Civil Parish:
Witton Gilbert Municipal Borough:
Address:
Eight Row, Witton Gilbert, Plawsworth County:
Durham

Ann

Ann Report 15 Dec 2010 16:54

This is a real pickle as in the 1861census they were living in Witton Gilbert, Co, Durham. with 3 children then moved on to Prudhoe

safc

safc Report 15 Dec 2010 16:44

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
NUTTALL John FLITCROFT Selina Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/21/92

safc

safc Report 15 Dec 2010 16:42

????

Marriages Dec 1861 (>99%)
Bradley Elizabeth Bolton 8c 385
xx Flitcroft Soline Bolton 8c 385
Longworth Elen Bolton 8c 385
xx Nuttall John Bolton 8c 385
Rothwell James Bolton 8c 385

Ann

Ann Report 15 Dec 2010 16:31

Yes Astra this is the John Nuttall. I was told that they ran away to marry but do not know where that was. She was disowned by her family. Yes there first son John was born in Wigan I do have that record. If as they say they were married in 1853 she must have been pregnant as John was born 7 Sept. 1853

Potty

Potty Report 15 Dec 2010 13:40

From Lancs bmd - birth of son John:

NUTTALL John Wigan Wigan & Leigh FLITCROFT

Astra

Astra Report 15 Dec 2010 13:28

Sorry Ann but i can't locate their marriage. Where did this information come from? Do you know where they married.
I wonder if John was in the forces at all. I'll just check the military marriages.
EDIT: No nothing in the military for him for that time either

Ann

Ann Report 15 Dec 2010 11:16

John married Solina Flitcroft in 1853.

Astra

Astra Report 15 Dec 2010 07:08

According to another thread about John's son Edward this is the John we are looking for

John Nuttall
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Selina Nuttall
Gender: Male
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Prudhoe
Ecclesiastical parish: Mickley
Town: Beaumont Cottages
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Bywell
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 74
Household Members: Name Age
John Nuttall 40
Selina Nuttall 37
John Nuttall 17
Isaac Nuttall 15
James Nuttall 11
Mary E Nuttall 8
Nancy Nuttall 5
Maria Nuttall 3
Hannah Nuttall 1


Astra

Astra Report 14 Dec 2010 21:15

Can we have details Ann of who John married and when please.

Astra

Astra Report 14 Dec 2010 20:57

But according to the OP the child born in 1841 was Edward not William and there is no baptism of a John listed to Matthew and Alice.

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 Dec 2010 20:05

Looks to be why he doesn't appear on further census records.


Burial: 16 Oct 1842 St Matthew, Little Lever, Lancashire, England
William Nuttall -
Age: 1 yr
Abode: L. Lever
Buried by: P.R. Robin Inct. Minr.

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 Dec 2010 19:59

Little Lever is a large village within the Metropolitan Borough of Bolton in Greater Manchester


The date of the 1841 census was the night of 6 June 1841

William was 6 months old

This looks like his birth

Births Mar 1841
Nuttall William - Bolton 21 168

The certificate should give Mother's maiden name

K

K Report 14 Dec 2010 19:51

There is a family with mother Alice and children John, Thomas and Adam that Astra and I posted in 1841 and 1851 above - although John wasn't living with the family in 1851

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 Dec 2010 19:45

Posted those baptisms to show the siblings of the Adam that Lindsey found.
There doesn't appear to be a family on census with John, Richard ,Thomas and Adam.

patchem

patchem Report 14 Dec 2010 18:10

Who did John marry?
Father's name from certificate.