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Michael, I got your PM about a missing puzzle piece, and I expected to see something in your thread!

... ??

Well, I guess we'll see whether the rule against duplicate posting, with which Michael is very familiar, applies to that board.


Any chance you saw the information I provided from my request to my cousin in Kent, Michael?

oh no!

So much for this being your one and only thread on the Grout family from now on

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Dioceses of the Province of Canterbury

The above marriage records can be searched on Find My Past (google for free trial)


http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/displayParishContents.asp

above link here for Essex parishes, a lot now available to view online)

Chris :)
(apologies if no use!)

Good question, Joy ...


I've had a reply from my cousin, as follows:


The bad news I’m afraid is that my Canterbury CD only shows marriages from c1752 so no luck with Martin Grout. The only Grout mentioned in the marriage index I have (1752 to late 1800s) is a Sarah Grout who married a William Cannaby at St Mary, Northgate on 21 Apr 1835. This might possibly give him a parish to search.

As you know there are about 13 separate parishes in Canterbury alone. As I recall the Cathedral Archives do have a microfiche index of earlier bmds so he might be able to get them to look it up for him. However, there are no Grouts in my baptism or burial index.

HOWEVER, having just re-read your email I realise that he mentions the Canterbury diocese and not specifically Canterbury. Does he realise that the diocese covers the whole of East and Mid Kent.

This will give him a map of the Deaneries
http://www.canterburydiocese.org/parishdeanery/index.htm
but each of these can have 20 to 30 parishes.

This will give him a map of the Kent parishes covered by the Kent Family History Society
http://www.kfhs.org.uk/kfhs-area1.htm
although some of the more Westerly parishes come under the Rochester diocese.

I think he needs some more definite info before he can search.

Did you look in www.rootschat.com?

just a note -- I stole a few minutes just now and sent my cuz in Kent an email about the marriage and will let you know when I hear back.

Hi there again,
Does anyone live near the Chelmsford FRO and could look up some information regarding a marriage[circa 1727/1735].
Await a hopeful reply.
Regards.
Michael.

If people here do not have the resources themselves,

for Essex ancestors - have you tried http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,13.0.html
or
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,511.0.html

and for Kent - have you tried
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,20.0.html
?

I'm hugely snowed under with work at the moment, but sometime this week I will email my cuz in Kent and ask her to check in the parish records she has; I'm pretty sure she'll be very happy to do it -- but she may be on a winter holiday as she tends to be at this time of year, so I'll let you know when I hear back. It sounds like what she haves covers the area the marriage would be in -- if it was in Canterbury -- and the index is searchable so it would be a pretty quick and easy search.

edit - "what she haves"? I hope I'm not typing things like that in this pile of work! ;)

Hi Janey,
Have just noticed your last message,which is appreciated.
The marriage would be about 1730/1734 and involved a Martin Grout and an Elizabeth.
Unfortunately i do not have any parish details as it just mentions Canterbury diocise.
Await your reply in due course.
Regards.
Michael.

Hi there,
As promised this is the only thread that i will be using from now on.
I am trying to find details of a Margaret Lacey who married an ancestor William Grout in Essex in 1732 but who died in 1734.
Can anyone help me.
Regards.
Michael.

Okay, Michael, your PM a while back was quite nice, and I'm going to be hugely wonderful here.

I have Canterbury ancestors -- the family that includes Viscount Sankey, my grx4 grmother's brother's grandson. A cousin from that family found me via Ancestry 4 or 5 years ago-- we share that grx4 grm, different husbands. She now lives (just coincidentally) in Canterbury, and has given me all kinds of info about my Canterbury families from parish records.

I don't think I want to ask her to make a special trip to do searches for you -- but I'm pretty sure she has some CD Roms or such of parish records.

... Okay, I went hunting in my emails, and this is what she has:


the BMD Index for the Canterbury city parishes
For your info the parishes covered by my CD are St Andrews, St Alphage, St Mary Bredin, St Mary Bredman, Christchurch, St Dunstan, St George, Holy Cross, St Mary Magdalene, St Mildred, St Martin, St Peter, St Paul and All Saints. The index has been prepared by the Kent Family History Society and is very useful because, as you can imagine, unless you know which parish something happened in you have to plough through 16 sets of parish records.


Now, this was over 4 years ago, so she might have different stuff now.

Put a list here of what you are looking for, and I'll email her and ask her to have a look.

There are 90 Grouts on this site in Essex, and many others elsewhere:

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home

This one may be 'your' Edwin' ?

Name: Edwin Henry Grout
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Feb 1848
Baptism/Christening Place: Great Dunmow, Essex, England

Father's Name: Henry Grout

Mother's Name: Lydia

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02245-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1472220
Reference Number: item 1-8 p 81
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Take a look - you may just find something useful?

Dea x

Hi everyone,
Does anyone live in the Canterbury area as i would appreciate some lookups in the Cathedral archives.
Regards.
Michael.

hi Pam,
Thank you so much for this info.
very much appreciated.
A very happy new year to you.
Regardsx.
Michael.

Parish Records Collection - burial



First name(s): Elizabeth

Last name: GROUT

Date of burial: 16 Sep 1756

Age at death:

Calculated year of birth: Not known

Place of burial: Thaxted

Dedication: St John the Baptist

County: Essex

Notes:
________________________________________
Thaxted St John the Baptist:


Denomination: Anglican


Coverage: 1693 - 1858


Number of entries: 5,687
________________________________________



Record source: National Burial Index


Parish Records Collection - burial



First name(s): Elizabeth

Last name: GROUT

Date of burial: 11 Mar 1757

Age at death:

Calculated year of birth: Not known

Place of burial: Thaxted

Dedication: St John the Baptist

County: Essex


Notes:
________________________________________
Thaxted St John the Baptist:


Denomination: Anglican


Coverage: 1693 - 1858


Number of entries: 5,687
________________________________________


Record source: National Burial Index

Records access at this site -- GenesReunited -- is free until 8 pm tonight UK time. Have you tried here? You won't likely be able even to get a search result, since all anyone is getting is a site-maintenance message (read: site is crashed), but you could always try.

Hi everyone,
Does anyone out there have full access to FMP as i am no longer a member.
It is for a burial in Essex circa 1751/55 and the name is Elizabeth Grout.Have checked the site and they list an entry.
Regards.
Michael.