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Eveline Cundall - a mystery to me

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SueMaid

SueMaid Report 26 Dec 2010 21:07

Christine - another lead to follow up. Thank you.

Sue

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 26 Dec 2010 08:48

Could this be her birth registration?

Births Dec 1852
CUNDELL Emma Pontefract 9c 65

Christine

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 26 Dec 2010 08:10

Thank you Patchem - sorry I didn't check back over Christmas. I think this rules out this being Eveline's family. I was thinking that she had been mistranscribed as Emily but this must be a seperate family - perhaps relatives?. Thank you all very much.

Sue

patchem

patchem Report 24 Dec 2010 20:57

1871 England Census
William Cundall
Age: 71 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Isabella Cundall Gender: Male Where born: Shaw Mills, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Halifax Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 135

William Cundall 71
Isabella Cundall 62
Thomas Cundall 22
Mary Cundall 27
Emily Cundall 17

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4392; Folio: 90; Page: 24; GSU roll: 848094.

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 23 Dec 2010 22:03

Thank you all very much - you have given me so much more than I had an hour ago. I very much appreciate the time and effort you have put into finding this information.

I must go out - last minute food shopping - here in Aus. it's Christmas Eve. Best wishes to you all for Christmas and the New Year - thank you again.

Sue

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Dec 2010 21:52

This may well be her birth then

Births Sep 1853
Cundall Emily - Halifax 9a 360

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 23 Dec 2010 21:48

That's incredible Mike. I have looked for Eveline on the FamilySearch site but couldn't find them. I'm wondering if Robert was born before William and Isabella's marriage if he had another mother - and that would explain the half-sibling situation.

Sue

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Dec 2010 21:46

This is an extracted entry not submitted but don't know how she could have been christened in 1873 if only born 1854 !!
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Emily Cundall --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 11 JUN 1854

Christening: 05 MAR 1873 Yorkshire West Riding, , Yorkshire, England

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Parents:
Father: William Cundall
Mother: Isabella

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Dec 2010 21:40

Children of William and Isabella.

Note Robert was christened same day as brother Crossley ( Isabella's maiden name).
They could have been twins OR simply had a joint christening in which case one (maybe Robert) must have been born before William and Isabella married in 1829


1. WILLIAM HENRY CUNDALL -
Gender: Male Christening: 07 FEB 1841 Otley, Yorkshire, England

2. MARY CUNDALL -
Gender: Female Christening: 06 AUG 1843 Otley, Yorkshire, England

3. FRANCES CUNDALL -
Gender: Female Christening: 02 OCT 1836 Otley, Yorkshire, England

4. ROBERT CUNDALL -
Gender: Male Christening: 21 NOV 1830 Otley, Yorkshire, England

5. JOSEPH CUNDALL -
Gender: Male Christening: 15 JUN 1834 Otley, Yorkshire, England

6. CROSSLEY CUNDALL -
Gender: Male Christening: 21 NOV 1830 Otley, Yorkshire, England

7. ANN CUNDALL -
Gender: Female Christening: 13 MAY 1832 Otley, Yorkshire, England

8. JOHN CROSSLEY CUNDALL -
Gender: Male Christening: 24 FEB 1839 Otley, Yorkshire, England

9. BENJAMIN CUNDELL -
Gender: Male Christening: 09 AUG 1846 Otley, Yorkshire, England

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 23 Dec 2010 21:40

Thank you Choccy - I couldn't find 'Parston'. Is 'Acaster' in that area? I take it that Thornton is in the Bradford area.

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 23 Dec 2010 21:36

If that's the marriage Mike - then Isabella would presumably be Robert's mother so where does Eveline fit in and why are they half-siblings.

Sue

Choccy

Choccy Report 23 Dec 2010 21:36



on the 1871 Eveline was born 'Parston' - think this could be Purston (Jaglin) in the parish of Featherstone, which is in Pontefract district


Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Dec 2010 21:33

WILLIAM CUNDALL --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages:
Spouse: ISABELLA CROSLEY
Marriage: 06 FEB 1829 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 23 Dec 2010 21:30

So - William and Isabella may be Eveline's parents but not necessarily Robert's? Is it possible that Eveline may have been mistranscribed in the 1861 Census as Emily?

Sue

patchem

patchem Report 23 Dec 2010 21:29

William appears to be married to Isabella in all censuses from 1841 to 1871, so how is Eveline a half-sister?

patchem

patchem Report 23 Dec 2010 21:24

Family in 1861:
1861 England Census
William Cundall Age: 61 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Isabella Cundall Gender: Male Where born: Ripley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Halifax Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Halifax County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 81

William Cundall 61
Isabella Cundall 52
Frances Cundall 24
Mary Cundall 17
Benjamin Cundall 15
Thomas Cundall 12
Emily Cundall 7

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3279; Folio: 70; Page: 14; GSU roll: 543107.

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Dec 2010 21:21


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ROBERT CUNDALL --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 21 NOV 1830 Otley, Yorkshire, England

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM CUNDALL
Mother: ISABELLA

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Dec 2010 21:20

Only Eveline/Evalina born in Pontefract around that time


Births Mar 1854
Kirk Evelina - Pontefract 9c 69


EDIT :
No, not her, she is an unmarried servant in 1881
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patchem

patchem Report 23 Dec 2010 21:20

Family in 1851:
1851 England Census
William Cundall Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Isabella Cundall Gender: M (Male) Where born: Otley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Halifax Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Halifax County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax ED, institution, or vessel: 1g Household schedule number: 238

William Cundall 51
Isabella Cundall 42
Robert Cundall 20
Ann Cundall 18
Joseph Cundall 16
Frances Cundall 14
William Henry Cundall 10
Mary Cundall 7
Benjamin Cundall 5
Thomas Cundall 2

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2298; Folio: 166; Page: 51; GSU roll: 87499-87502.

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 23 Dec 2010 21:16

No father on the marriage certificate - how annoying:-)) Yes Robert appears to be her half brother.

Glitter Baby - Eveline as Caroline gives her birth place as Pontefract in 1881. Forgive my lack of knowledge as to where some of these places are in Yorkshire - I'm in Australia.

Sue