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Grimsby Mystery Brennan/Branton/Collier et al

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Katie

Katie Report 3 Jan 2011 23:07

Just nudging in case anyone has any luck finding Laura/Norah.
Katie

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Dec 2010 18:23

Thanks FBG.

Rose

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 29 Dec 2010 11:49


MACKRILL, Thomas Head Married M 29 1882 Joiner And Builder Lincs Grimsby
MACKRILL, Mary Wife Married F 25 1886 Lincs Crosby Parish

Registration District:
Grimsby Sub District:
Great Grimsby Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Great Grimsby

Address:
12 Haven Terrace Great Grimsby County:
Lincolnshire

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Dec 2010 09:39

I wouldn't dismiss the Laura and Edward Branton marriage. There are no other deaths for a Laura Branton on Ancestry or any remarriages,

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Dec 2010 07:48

Please would someone who has access to the 1911 census post who was living at 12 Haven Terrace, Grimsby?

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Dec 2010 07:44

Possibly Paul's death if he stayed in the area.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Paul Clifford
Name: Paul Clifford
Death Registration Month/Year: 1949
Age at death (estimated): 70
Registration district: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 415

Can't find a corresponding birth so perhaps he was Irish?

Rose

Katie

Katie Report 28 Dec 2010 23:08

I think this must be John Elston's first wife in 1911, 2 children both sadly dead

ELSTON, Minnie Wife Married
6 years F 40 1871 Costumier Hull Sculcoates Yorks VIEW

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28702 Reference:
RG14PN28702 RG78PN1649 RD521 SD7 ED15 SN40

Registration District:
Sculcoates Sub District:
East Sculcoates Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Sculcoates

Address:
2 Epworth St Beverley Road Hull County:
Yorkshire (East riding)

Katie

Katie Report 28 Dec 2010 21:28

Rootgatherer - have looked at the Brennen/Branton marriage you found but I believe it is between 2 other people, both in Hull on 1911 census.
Katie

Katie

Katie Report 28 Dec 2010 21:22

Hi All,
Kenneth's daughter has now told me that his early years were spent in, or around, Grimsby with various ( unknown ) family members. In his teens he was a boarder at St Georges School, Eastbourne - unknown who paid for this. His first job was in Nottingham where he used the surname Brant. He then lived with Paul Clifford, who he believed to be his father, in West London.
Laura/Norah was missing from her son's life for some years but "resurfaced" in Brighton in 1953. She said that she was born in Ireland. When she died her address was 44, Rosehill Terrace, Brighton.

I don't know if this will throw any more light on things.
Katie

Katie

Katie Report 26 Dec 2010 22:09

I have asked Kenneth's daughter if she knows where he lived as a child. Am having trouble posting this as the website seems to be undergoing maintenance again!
Katie

Katie

Katie Report 26 Dec 2010 09:29

RG, John Elsdon must have married Minnie Stephenson. Had a quick look for her in 1911, no luck so far.
Katie

Katie

Katie Report 26 Dec 2010 09:04

I am not sure where Laura/Norah and Kenneth lived, other than the southern half of England, I will have to ask his daughter. Laura died in Brighton. Kenneth married in Kent.
Katie

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Dec 2010 08:48

Name: John Stainforth Elston
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Sculcoates
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 195


On the 1911 John states that he is married, I wonder if this is his marriage?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)
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Creasser Harriet Sculcoates 9d 288
Elston John Sculcoates 9d 288
Martin Herbert Whiston Sculcoates 9d 288
Stephenson Minnie Sculcoates 9d 288


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Dec 2010 08:36

Just as a check I have had a look for Jane Wellsted (Aunt of John in 1911).
This confirms that the John on the earlier census is indeed the same man as the one on the 1911 census with his Aunt.

Here she is in 1881

Name: Martha Jane Wellsted
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Wm.Jas. Wellsted
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 23 Margaret St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Wm.Jas. Wellsted 61 Photographic Artist.
Martha Jane Wellsted 44
Mary Nubrown 19



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%)
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Stainforth Martha Jane Sculcoates 9d 255
WELLSTED William James Sculcoates 9d 255

Katie

Katie Report 25 Dec 2010 23:29

Thanks for all your help so far. Am also off to bed now, will have another look tomorrow.
Katie

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 25 Dec 2010 23:27

Where did Kenneth and Laura live?

Rose

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Dec 2010 23:27

1861

Name: Laura Stainforth
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Stainforth
Mother's name: Elizabeth Stainforth
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingston Upon Hull

Civil Parish: Hull Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
John Stainforth 52
Elizabeth Stainforth 52
Jane Stainforth 25
Thomas Pashby Stainforth 23
Emily Stainforth 18
Laura Stainforth 15
Alice Gertrude Stainforth 8
John Hailstone 19



Deaths Mar 1881 (>99%)
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ELSTON Walter 40 Sculcoates 9d 96

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Dec 2010 23:21

Not necessarily,she may have got pregnant anywhere,including Ireland..
Only had to be in Grimsby to give birth..
Night

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Dec 2010 23:19

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1873 (>99%)
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Elotson Walter Kingston Hull 9d 292
Elston Walter Kingston Hull 9d 292 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
MARSHALL Eleanor Hull 9d 292
STAINFORTH Lauretta Hull 9d 292 <<<<<<<<<<<<
TAFFENDER John Hull 9d 292

Katie

Katie Report 25 Dec 2010 23:18

FBG - no, nothing more is known about her. She must have been in the Hull/Grimsby area by May 1911 though.
Katie