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Ellen Emily James 1887

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Madmeg

Madmeg Report 31 Dec 2010 20:50

Several Goslings born with mmn James - but all in Plympton, Devon.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 31 Dec 2010 20:46

I'd slow down if I were you. More than one James married an Ellen.

The Camberwell one seems to fit best.

You need the birth certificate of one of their children (preferably the one you are most certain about) to confirm who the mother was.

Ryswick23

Ryswick23 Report 29 Dec 2010 19:02

Ellen's father was Frederick Charles but on some of the records he is Frederick William Charles which makes things REALLY confusing. Ellen's grandfather was Frederick William James too.

Not helpful is it

Mike *

Mike * Report 29 Dec 2010 18:33

So was Ellen's father not Frederick Charles then ? ( as seen on 1911 census)

Ryswick23

Ryswick23 Report 29 Dec 2010 18:32

Cant thank you enough. Really exciting

cagsie

cagsie Report 29 Dec 2010 18:28

1911 says married 27yrs so 1884 is better bet

Ryswick23

Ryswick23 Report 29 Dec 2010 18:28

Cagsie that is it I think because I know that Frederick's father was called William James and it puts them in the right area. Wish they wouldnt call themselves names all so similar makes it soooooo confusing!

cagsie

cagsie Report 29 Dec 2010 18:27

no, there's 2 marrriages to a page, so they're the other ones

Ryswick23

Ryswick23 Report 29 Dec 2010 18:21

Sorry if I seem a bit thick but does this mean Edwin Brown and Amelia Wood were witnesses? I am really shocked to see they may have married in Dorchester - how curious

cagsie

cagsie Report 29 Dec 2010 18:21

parents' marriage?

Name: Frederick William James
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Spouse Name: Ellen Clarke
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 02 Nov 1884
Parish: Camden Church, Camberwell
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William James
Spouse Father Name: John Clarke

Mike *

Mike * Report 29 Dec 2010 18:16

Marriages Jun 1882 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BROWN Edwin William Dorchester 5a 621
>>>>>>>>>>>>James Frederick Charles Dorchester 5a 621
>>>>>>>>>>>>WEBBER Ellen Dorchester 5a 621
WOOD Amelia Dorchester 5a 621

cagsie

cagsie Report 29 Dec 2010 18:15

Alice James 25 Sep 1892 Frederick Charles James, Ellen James St Pancras St Matthew Camden
Annie May James 25 Sep 1892 Frederick Charles James, Ellen James St Pancras St Matthew Camden
Ellen Emily James 25 Sep 1892 Frederick Charles James, Ellen James St Pancras St Matthew Camden
Frederick William James 25 Sep 1892 Frederick Charles James, Ellen James St Pancras St Matthew Camden
Sidney James 25 Sep 1892 Frederick Charles James, Ellen James St Pancras St Matthew Camden
Lily James 23 Sep 1894 Frederick William James, Ellen James St Pancras St Matthew Camden
Kate Elisabeth James 15 Mar 1896 Frederick Charles James, Ellen James St Pancras St Matthew Camden
Hubert James 24 Jul 1898 Frederick Charles William James, Ellen James Camden Town All Saints Camden
John James 8 Mar 1900 Frederick William James, Ellen James Camden Town All Saints Camden
Edward Cecil James 10 Aug 1902 Frederick William James, Ellen James St Pancras St Matthew Camden

looks like Frederick interchanged his middle names

Ryswick23

Ryswick23 Report 29 Dec 2010 18:15

That certainly looks like her baptism Cagsie, thanks.

cagsie

cagsie Report 29 Dec 2010 18:13

have just found this

Name: Ellen Emily James
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1892
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1892
Father's name: Frederick Charles James
Mother's name: Ellen James
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras St Matthew
Borough: Camden

cagsie

cagsie Report 29 Dec 2010 18:11

it would mean they died as infants, being born and deceased inbetween the census years
my grandmother was one of 12, but my mum only knew of 5 aunties/uncles

Ryswick23

Ryswick23 Report 29 Dec 2010 18:09

I knew there were 9 children in total and one boy called John died but I wasnt aware there were anymore who died. I have never seen any others listed on earlier census.

Ryswick23

Ryswick23 Report 29 Dec 2010 18:05

Gosh does that mean that 3 children died?

cagsie

cagsie Report 29 Dec 2010 18:01

1911 says 10 of 13 children were still alive

Ryswick23

Ryswick23 Report 29 Dec 2010 18:00

Thank you everyone. Mike that is quite interesting because I seem to remember my mother telling me she was evacuated to her aunt Ellen (or Nell as they called her) and she lived in Sussex. I will have to check it with her and see if this jogs her memory ie the husbands name.

Fingers crossed.

cagsie

cagsie Report 29 Dec 2010 17:58

parents in 1911
JAMES, Frederick Charles Head Married
27 years M 50 1861 Salesman Covent Garden Flower Market Ferns Importer Sewdley Nr Newnhan Gloshire VIEW
JAMES, Ellen Wife Married F 51 1860 Wappenham Northampton VIEW
JAMES, Fred Son Single M 26 1885 Salesman Covent Garden Flower Market Ferns Importer St Pancras London VIEW
JAMES, Sidney Son Single M 19 1892 Railway Porter St Pancras London VIEW
JAMES, Lilly Daughter Single F 17 1894 Dressmaker St Pancras London VIEW
JAMES, Kate Daughter Single F 15 1896 Dressmaker St Pancras London VIEW
JAMES, John Son M 11 1900 At School St Pancras London VIEW
JAMES, Edward Son M 8 1903 At School St Pancras London VIEW