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Nicola

Nicola Report 2 Jan 2011 20:56

I am trying to find a record of my g grandmothers death.

She died during childbirth with my grandads sister. My grandad was born in June 1910 and could not remember his mother so I have checked from 1911 - 1917 and cannot seem to find anything. She would have been about 26 -29 years old and was living at 40 Winstanley Road Battersea.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks Nicola

patchem

patchem Report 2 Jan 2011 20:58

Could you give us your grandfathers name?
Thanks

jax

jax Report 2 Jan 2011 21:00

what was her maiden name?

Nicola

Nicola Report 2 Jan 2011 21:01

My grandfathers name was Vivian Samuel Arthur Ford born 2 June 1910

patchem

patchem Report 2 Jan 2011 21:01

Presumably family in 1911?:
FORD, Samuel Fredrick Head Married M 27 1884 Rag Merchants Surry Battersea
FORD, Matilda Ann Wife Married 1 years F 26 1885 Surry Battersea
FORD, Vivian Samuel Auther Son M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Surry Battersea

RG number: RG14 Piece: 2214 Reference: RG14PN2214 RG78PN75 RD26 SD2 ED26 SN46
Registration District: Wandsworth Sub District: North West Battersea Enumeration District: 26 Parish: Battersea
Address: 40 Winstanley Road Battersea S W County: London

Nicola

Nicola Report 2 Jan 2011 21:01

Matildas maiden name was Vivian

jax

jax Report 2 Jan 2011 21:04

cannot see any children born to this couple after 1911 what was your grandads sisters name?

jax

patchem

patchem Report 2 Jan 2011 21:05

If she died in childbirth, what was the child called?
Thanks.

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Jan 2011 21:15

I know its 1945 but this is coreect age......

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Matilda A Ford
Name: Matilda A Ford
Death Registration Month/Year: 1945
Age at death (estimated): 61
Registration district: Wokingham
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 373

Andy

Nicola

Nicola Report 2 Jan 2011 21:19

I have just asked my mum and she does not know, she only remembers my grandad saying that she died giving birth. But I don't understand why I cannot find a death certificate for her.

jax

jax Report 2 Jan 2011 21:20

Looks interesting Andy

Maybe she just uped and left and that was what your grandfather was told? So if there was a sister you dont know who she was?

jax

tempest

tempest Report 2 Jan 2011 21:20

Matilda's baptism

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Matilda Annie Vivian Name: Matilda Annie Vivian
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884
Baptism Date: 22 Aug 1884
Father's name: Arthur Francis Vivian
Mother's name: Matilda Vivian
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St Mary
Borough: Wandsworth


and GRO birth record


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Matilda Ann Vivian Name: Matilda Ann Vivian
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Wandsworth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 610

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Jan 2011 21:22

Hi Jax, (sorry)

I was thinking something along the same lines, family stories to cover tracks and all that...

Andy

tempest

tempest Report 2 Jan 2011 21:24

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Matilda Ann Vivian Name: Matilda Ann Vivian
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Spouse Name: Samuel Frederick Ford
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 05 Jun 1909
Parish: St Peter, Battersea
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Arthur Francis Vivian
Spouse Father Name: Frederick Ford

Nicola

Nicola Report 2 Jan 2011 21:26

Thank you very much for your info everyone.
Maybe you are right Jax. Unfortunately everyone apart from my mum has died now and maybe I will never find out.

tempest

tempest Report 2 Jan 2011 21:33

someone who has saved the birth record and baptism on ancestry also saved this death record, the year of birth is correct but date of birth is out, as is the death date you gave but????

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Matilda Ford Name: Matilda Ford
Birth Date: 13 Dec 1882
Death Registration Month/Year: 1982
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 15
Page: 1176

jax

jax Report 2 Jan 2011 21:34

I cannot see any births for Ford/Vivian so if a sister had been born she would have been registered unless it was a stillborn birth?

jax

tempest

tempest Report 2 Jan 2011 21:39

hang on on ancestry wills and probate there's an entry for a Arthur Francis Vivian, same name as Matilda's father found on the marriage bans

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
about Arthur Francis Vivian Name: Arthur Francis Vivian
Probate Date: 13 Jun 1941
Death Date: 24 Feb 1941
Death Place: Berkshire, England
Registry: Llandudno

Vivian, Arthur Francis of Coventry Barkham Ride Finchampstead Berkshire died 24 Feb 1941 admin is granted to Matilda Ann Ford wife of Samuel Frederick Ford effects £1172 17s 9d

jax

jax Report 2 Jan 2011 21:42

So it looks like she was still around then in her 60s at least

The 1945 death looks likely then

jax

Nicola

Nicola Report 2 Jan 2011 21:46

I have just spoken to my mum and she said that Samuel Ford remarried in about 1950 to a lady from Sunderland. So if Matilda did not die there might be a divorce somewhere.