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Hello Patrick,

Have not been on till today and yours was the first thread I checked, Colin that is super info..........well done you!

Well Patrick, this is where I have to bow out as USA & Canada are not my bag!

You need to decide who you are going to go with USA or Canada connections, if the first fails you will have to try the other route. I would ask for info on the last descendants keeping it short. There is a person on here called Janey Canuck who is very good with all things Canadian, she may be able to help you, as she is up on whats available record wise and what is not! also how to go about obtaining records that may be of interest.

Perhaps if you start a new thread CANADA HELP POST 1900's, you could paste your previous thread number onto the new thread, do not delete)and if you get a helper they will be able to read the whole story for themselves should they need to. I would think if you just change the heading, people will see 40+ replies and maybe feel they will have nothing to add.

Will be watching!
Good luck
Annx

Folks,

Once again a million thanks. I've modelled all the info you provided on FTM software to clarify things. It looks like there are 2 living Bartholmy ladies (Austin Mower being a 2nd Gt Grand Uncle) probably in the US...maybe Florida. Then another bunch descended from Ralph, Stephen.& Alice Johnson etc in Quebec/Canada?
I guess I'm going to need to wind forward 2 generations on this Quebec bunch to find living descendants. Can anyone advise on how easy/tricky that may be?

Patrick

Penny posted this

Marriages Jun 1868
Goy Christopher Louth 7a 1232a
MOWER Sarah Ann Louth 7a 1232a


Her father was Lot but may be related further down the line

1861 England Census
about Lot Mower Name: Lot Mower
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Covenham, St Bartholomew, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Fotherby
Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Louth
Sub-registration district: Louth
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Lot Mower 57
John Mower 14
Sarah Ann Mower 16
Charlotte Mower 12

Hello Patrick,

Well you have a Canadian or American route to follow:

Good info on this from LadyKira


Ida Lily Johnson
Born: 14 Feb 1901
Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Died: 13 May 1986
Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA
Charles Christopher Palliser
Born: 16 Sep 1893 in Lachute, Argenteuil, Quebec, Canada
Died: 2 May 1974 in Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA
Marriage: 4 Jul 1922 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada

or

The Quebec kids


Alice Agnes JOHNSON Page 3 of 20
Ann JOHNSON Page 3 of 20
James JOHNSON Page 15 of 20
Ralph Reg JOHNSON Page 3 of 20
Stephen Wm JOHNSON Page 3 of 20

There is a researcher on here that enjoys the chase with all things Canada.
Also a few of our Amerian friends may be able to help, and find out if their were any little Pallisters born to Ida & Charles.

Good luck
Annx

Folks,

You really are extra-ordinarily resourceful & helpful!!
We'll get that Sampler connected up to a living descendant somehow!!

Patrick

Name: Augustin Mower
Age: 6 MO
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England

William Mower 35
Sarah Mower 35
William Mower 4
Augustin Mower 6 MO
Mildred Mower 2
Elizabeth Bailey 75
Maria Campion 12
Robert Uredale 65
Sophia Uredale 60

Hi Colin,

Yes that is the problem too many!! However just taken a look at the boys CEF records Stephen Johnson joined 6/8/1915 and his brother Ralph 6/3/1915........the latter naming his mother as next of kin, address 2677 Esplanade Avenue Montreal, the former had his father as next of kin at the same address............so she had to be there in 1915.

was hoping they may have had a wife........to get further down the line with the search, which now looks like for def to be followed up in Canada!

Annx

LK.............yes strange that.........wonder then did she just go visit some of the children..........Colin has her coming back in 1937......so she must have went out previous!

Thank you LK

passenger transcript details
Name: Milvena JOHNSON
Date of departure: 14 July 1939
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Montreal, Canada
Passenger destination: Montreal, Canada

Date of Birth: 1870 (calculated from age)
Age: 69
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: H'wife
DUCHESS OF BEDFORD
160482
W Buske-Wood
Canadian Pacific
Montreal, Canada
16205
11881
319

Is it me getting tired or did..............William Johnson go with his kids to Canada.............and Milvena did not!

Annx

William Mower 1802

William Mower 1838 son

Milvena 1870 daughter of William 1838

Milvena EllenJohnson 1892 (ms Mower )daughter of Milvena 1870

Ralph Reginald 1897
Stephen William 1899
Alice Agnes 1900
Ida Lily 1901 Went to Canada 1911 + James& Ann

Just a time line for me, thanks everyone, we need Janey Canuck now, I bet she could deliver the sampler in person!

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about Stephen Johnson Name: Stephen Johnson
Birth Date: 9 Sep 1897
Birth Location: Peterborough Northamptonshire, England
Relative: William T Johnson
Relationship: Father
Regiment Number: 132091

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about Ralph Reginald Johnson Name: Ralph Reginald Johnson
Birth Date: 7 Jul 1896
Birth Location: Peterborough, England
Relative: Milvena Johnson
Relationship: Mother
Regiment Number: 418415

Thankyou Mike.........I was going to look up the marriage.

Annx

SNAP COLIN..................Well no wonder I could not find any marriages in the UK.............Bingo!

passenger transcript details
Name: Ida Lily JOHNSON
Date of departure: 29 August 1911
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada

Date of Birth:
Age: Child
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Child
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 20





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Alice Agnes JOHNSON Page 3 of 20 View transcript
Ann JOHNSON Page 3 of 20 View transcript
James JOHNSON Page 15 of 20 View transcript
Ralph Reg JOHNSON Page 3 of 20 View transcript
Stephen Wm JOHNSON Page 3 of 20 View transcript
Wm Thos JOHNSON Page 3 of 20 View transcript
Passengers on voyage:
ASCANIA
131342
Geo W Melsom
Cunard
Quebec, Canada
13925
5699
542

The whole family went!!!!!!!!!

passenger transcript details
Name: Ida Lily JOHNSON
Date of departure: 29 August 1911
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada

Date of Birth:
Age: Child
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Child
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 20





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Alice Agnes JOHNSON Page 3 of 20 View transcript
Ann JOHNSON Page 3 of 20 View transcript
James JOHNSON Page 15 of 20 View transcript
Ralph Reg JOHNSON Page 3 of 20 View transcript
Stephen Wm JOHNSON Page 3 of 20 View transcript
Wm Thos JOHNSON Page 3 of 20 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
ASCANIA
131342
Geo W Melsom
Cunard
Quebec, Canada
13925
5699
542

Thankyou LK! Colin I just posted that and it has whooshed!!

1930 United States Federal Census
about Ida Palliser Name: Ida Palliser
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
View Map
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles Palliser
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Palliser 36
Ida Palliser 29
Robert Palliser 6

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Births Dec 1869
Mawer Milvenah Ann - Louth 7a 549


Marriages Dec 1891 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Baynes Henry Peterbro' 3b 563
>>>>>>>>>>>Johnson William Thomas Peterbor' 3b 563
>>>>>>>>>>>Mower Milvena Ann Peterbro' 3b 563
Sibley Sarah Jane Peterbro' 3b 563